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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8954766" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>There's absolutely no post-EU deletion canon to back this claim up, and plenty of canon that shows it's wrong, including High Republic stuff where Jedi force-deflect shrapnel and so on.</p><p></p><p>It's a bit of old-EU bollocks from the same bollocks-mongers as "Jedi can't stop a pistol because they'd just melt the bullets!".</p><p></p><p>Anything old-EU needs to be disregarded until recanonized. Especially as a lot of it was never even close to canon and often directly contradicted by other old-EU sources.</p><p></p><p>Gas and acid/liquids should work pretty well against Jedi as very few Jedi show much ability to control either - there are specific Jedi who can - Elzar Mann for example in the High Republic books can deal with gas and liquids, but a lot of other Jedi in the same books cannot (and Mann has a sort of sea-centric vision of the Force, which probably helps). Thermal detonators are "sufficiently large explosions" so yes those are a real problem.</p><p></p><p>Some force-users can also deal with flame - Grogu can, for example, and he's a child (though seemingly very powerful).</p><p></p><p>Basically the only good ways to defeat Jedi are:</p><p></p><p>1) Big explosions.</p><p></p><p>2) Surprise attacks - they have precognition but it's very short and doesn't seem to reliably work with stuff like traps/mines.</p><p></p><p>3) Wildly outnumbering them - most Jedi can only deflect so many blaster bolts for so long.</p><p></p><p>Anything else might or might not work based on the specific Jedi involved, so you're taking a risk unless you are familiar with their specific abilities and they're not the sort that would hold something back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8954766, member: 18"] There's absolutely no post-EU deletion canon to back this claim up, and plenty of canon that shows it's wrong, including High Republic stuff where Jedi force-deflect shrapnel and so on. It's a bit of old-EU bollocks from the same bollocks-mongers as "Jedi can't stop a pistol because they'd just melt the bullets!". Anything old-EU needs to be disregarded until recanonized. Especially as a lot of it was never even close to canon and often directly contradicted by other old-EU sources. Gas and acid/liquids should work pretty well against Jedi as very few Jedi show much ability to control either - there are specific Jedi who can - Elzar Mann for example in the High Republic books can deal with gas and liquids, but a lot of other Jedi in the same books cannot (and Mann has a sort of sea-centric vision of the Force, which probably helps). Thermal detonators are "sufficiently large explosions" so yes those are a real problem. Some force-users can also deal with flame - Grogu can, for example, and he's a child (though seemingly very powerful). Basically the only good ways to defeat Jedi are: 1) Big explosions. 2) Surprise attacks - they have precognition but it's very short and doesn't seem to reliably work with stuff like traps/mines. 3) Wildly outnumbering them - most Jedi can only deflect so many blaster bolts for so long. Anything else might or might not work based on the specific Jedi involved, so you're taking a risk unless you are familiar with their specific abilities and they're not the sort that would hold something back. [/QUOTE]
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