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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7592141" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Citation please.</p><p></p><p>I mean, I know there are people who disliked it. I know some of those were women. And some of the women were "hardcore fans" (whatever that means - it is easier to make blanket statements about a group when the group isn't well defined). But to state this as a <em>general</em> thing? Who the heck are you to speak for an entire demographic? </p><p></p><p>Rottentomatoes and metacritic are, alas, gameable platforms, so their data is of questionable accuracy.</p><p></p><p>How about we look at some exit survey data? As in, surveys of people as they left the theater at the time? </p><p></p><p><em>"...on ComScore/Screen Engine, Last Jedi earned an 89% overall positive score and a five-star rating from moviegoers. That’s in the wheelhouse of what Force Awakens earned (90% overall positive/ 4 1/2 stars) and Rogue One (91% positive, 4 1/2 stars). These are scientific, statistically accumulated audience exit polls that studios can take to the bank, and which they rely upon to deconstruct various elements of a film’s opening."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p></p><p><a href="https://deadline.com/2017/12/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rotten-tomatoes-metacritic-imdb-users-cinemascore-posttrak-1202228837/" target="_blank">https://deadline.com/2017/12/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rotten-tomatoes-metacritic-imdb-users-cinemascore-posttrak-1202228837/</a></p><p></p><p><em>"Interestingly, <strong>the 89 percent figure stays the same whether respondents described themselves as a "big" Star Wars fan or a regular fan.</strong> Even among self-described non-Star Wars fans — whom, one presumes, must have wandered into the wrong theater — 81 percent loved or liked The Last Jedi. "</em></p><p></p><p>(Bolding mine - it seems to put a hole in your assertion above)</p><p></p><p><a href="https://mashable.com/2017/12/20/last-jedi-poll/#RyT05h4uZiqF" target="_blank">https://mashable.com/2017/12/20/last-jedi-poll/#RyT05h4uZiqF</a></p><p></p><p>Again, in the end, the film grossed $1.3 billion dollars. This is not a failure by any reasonable measure. Or do you content that folks spent over a billion dollars... hate watching?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7592141, member: 177"] Citation please. I mean, I know there are people who disliked it. I know some of those were women. And some of the women were "hardcore fans" (whatever that means - it is easier to make blanket statements about a group when the group isn't well defined). But to state this as a [i]general[/i] thing? Who the heck are you to speak for an entire demographic? Rottentomatoes and metacritic are, alas, gameable platforms, so their data is of questionable accuracy. How about we look at some exit survey data? As in, surveys of people as they left the theater at the time? [I]"...on ComScore/Screen Engine, Last Jedi earned an 89% overall positive score and a five-star rating from moviegoers. That’s in the wheelhouse of what Force Awakens earned (90% overall positive/ 4 1/2 stars) and Rogue One (91% positive, 4 1/2 stars). These are scientific, statistically accumulated audience exit polls that studios can take to the bank, and which they rely upon to deconstruct various elements of a film’s opening." [/I] [url]https://deadline.com/2017/12/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rotten-tomatoes-metacritic-imdb-users-cinemascore-posttrak-1202228837/[/url] [I]"Interestingly, [B]the 89 percent figure stays the same whether respondents described themselves as a "big" Star Wars fan or a regular fan.[/B] Even among self-described non-Star Wars fans — whom, one presumes, must have wandered into the wrong theater — 81 percent loved or liked The Last Jedi. "[/I] (Bolding mine - it seems to put a hole in your assertion above) [url]https://mashable.com/2017/12/20/last-jedi-poll/#RyT05h4uZiqF[/url] Again, in the end, the film grossed $1.3 billion dollars. This is not a failure by any reasonable measure. Or do you content that folks spent over a billion dollars... hate watching? [/QUOTE]
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