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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7594185" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Are you still using the 3.5 years that's not in canon for your assessment? What else not in the movies are you using for your assessments?</p><p></p><p>Your assessment is bunk because it's not supported by anything other than you checked last night. I checked just now, and you're clearly wrong. Who wins this?</p><p></p><p>Anakin -- podracer pilot (something NO other human could do), destroys fleet control ship, 9 years old. In less than 10 years, leads attack on Jedi temple as the only force user and slaughters everyone there. That's his bookends -- stupid powerful to start, stupid powerful at the end, THEN becomes Darth Vader.</p><p></p><p>Luke -- in a very short time finds out the Force exists and then destroys the Peace Moon (traitorously nicknamed the Death Star) without a targeting computer. Spends a few weeks in a swamp and credibly fights Darth Vader (see above). Spends a bit more time (not much), and then BEATS Vader. Yeah. Kickass!</p><p></p><p>Rey -- grows up having to survive in a brutal climate scavenging dangerous wrecks and fending off claim-jumpers and muggers (seen onscreen, even). Is able to fight wounded bad-guy trainee, becomes accused of being too good too fast.</p><p></p><p>Faces down Snoke, gets slapped down like a chihuahua puppy. Only saved by power-seizing trainee (who has also gotten much stronger and capable, but this is not remarked upon). Fights some red dudes, does well, is accused of being too power too fast. Then, lifts some rocks. HOLY POOP BATMAN, ROCKS HAVE BEEN LIFTED, WTF IS THIS ROCK STUFF?!!11eleven111!</p><p></p><p>I mean, really, at the end of TLJ, Rey has managed to get captured twice (TFA and TLJ), get slapped down a bunch of times, get some lessons from the BADDEST Jedi evah! (beat his own dad at, like 23!), and lifted some rocks, but, oh no, she's like way too strong way to fast this is bad we need more training montages and a guess that 3.5 years have passed!!! I mean, Anakin blew up a Trade Federation control cruiser, flew podracers, impregnated a Queen, rode an assassin droid 1,000s of feat AGL, landed a crippled crusier after beating Dooku, killed all the padawans and the few Jedi left in his sack of the Jedi Temple, and became Darth Vader at the same age where Rey's biggest claim to fame is lifting some damn rocks.</p><p></p><p>Get a grip, already.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7594185, member: 16814"] Are you still using the 3.5 years that's not in canon for your assessment? What else not in the movies are you using for your assessments? Your assessment is bunk because it's not supported by anything other than you checked last night. I checked just now, and you're clearly wrong. Who wins this? Anakin -- podracer pilot (something NO other human could do), destroys fleet control ship, 9 years old. In less than 10 years, leads attack on Jedi temple as the only force user and slaughters everyone there. That's his bookends -- stupid powerful to start, stupid powerful at the end, THEN becomes Darth Vader. Luke -- in a very short time finds out the Force exists and then destroys the Peace Moon (traitorously nicknamed the Death Star) without a targeting computer. Spends a few weeks in a swamp and credibly fights Darth Vader (see above). Spends a bit more time (not much), and then BEATS Vader. Yeah. Kickass! Rey -- grows up having to survive in a brutal climate scavenging dangerous wrecks and fending off claim-jumpers and muggers (seen onscreen, even). Is able to fight wounded bad-guy trainee, becomes accused of being too good too fast. Faces down Snoke, gets slapped down like a chihuahua puppy. Only saved by power-seizing trainee (who has also gotten much stronger and capable, but this is not remarked upon). Fights some red dudes, does well, is accused of being too power too fast. Then, lifts some rocks. HOLY POOP BATMAN, ROCKS HAVE BEEN LIFTED, WTF IS THIS ROCK STUFF?!!11eleven111! I mean, really, at the end of TLJ, Rey has managed to get captured twice (TFA and TLJ), get slapped down a bunch of times, get some lessons from the BADDEST Jedi evah! (beat his own dad at, like 23!), and lifted some rocks, but, oh no, she's like way too strong way to fast this is bad we need more training montages and a guess that 3.5 years have passed!!! I mean, Anakin blew up a Trade Federation control cruiser, flew podracers, impregnated a Queen, rode an assassin droid 1,000s of feat AGL, landed a crippled crusier after beating Dooku, killed all the padawans and the few Jedi left in his sack of the Jedi Temple, and became Darth Vader at the same age where Rey's biggest claim to fame is lifting some damn rocks. Get a grip, already. [/QUOTE]
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