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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9184748" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>The Suits thing I personally think is good news. The biggest issue with streaming right now, imho, is that it's completely failed to fulfil the promise of streaming, which is being able to legally view the shows you want, somewhere, at least. Right now, in the UK anyway, huge numbers of shows that are relatively recent and not poorly regarded (last 5-20 years) and even larger numbers of movies from 10-50 years old are just not possible to stream anywhere. I've noticed Netflix has cut an awful lot of stuff that was sort of "deeper catalogue" - i.e. shows of the same sort of vintage as Suits - here, whilst upping prices drastically to the point where they're now more expensive than the most "prestige" UK streaming service, which basically has HBO's shows and hoovers up a bunch of other more prestige-y TV in a very annoying fashion. Hopefully this will cause them to reverse course on that. To be honest in a lot of cases I really would rather they had multiple old show rather than one new show, especially as they have a 90% chance to cull all new shows after 1-2 seasons.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, like, let's revisit in 5-10 years and see if that's still the case. They were basically saying they were in trouble a couple of years ago, and now you're seemingly claiming they are godlike, unkillable, and surely there is no hubris whatsoever involved in any of this! I think they'll be a presence for a very long time, but I could easily see them fading in popularity in English-speaking countries. That might not impact their bottom line very much of course, I don't know. It would certainly impact their relevance, however.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, but this is an interesting point to me, because I used to be able to casually watch Netflix in that way, but they've really cut down on the sort of shows that are really casually watchable, and their reality TV output, which is significant, is mostly unwatchable, like endless cake shows which feel Black Mirror like in their uniformity. I tried to background-watch a cocktail show on Netflix but it was too offensively bad. How do you make that kind of TV too offensively bad? Like I should barely be noticing it's even on! Their glassblowing show on the other was surprisingly captivating (but has very few episodes per season, I guess it's surprisingly expensive to make for that kind of show or something). Their docos are getting worse and worse too, and I know I'm not the only one noticing these things because co-workers keep bringing stuff like this up.</p><p></p><p>Given that they were in trouble recently, I just don't buy the well-oiled machine line. They were screwing up. They made a load of cuts to both the amount of content they had, and the amount they were making, and fired a bunch of people, and they raised prices vastly beyond inflation, whilst squeezing really hard on password sharing. And you're saying, oh they're so smart, they'll keep making $$$ forever (that's how I understand "they've won" - maybe that's not what you meant though, but to me "won" implies nigh-permanence in this context), and I'm like, will they? They can't keep doing that repeatedly. You can squeeze password sharing ONCE ever. That's it. You're done. You can fire a bunch more people but then there'll be hardly anyone working there. If they raise the prices again by the same amount in the UK, they're going to go through £20 barrier, and I guarantee that will cause a lot of cancellations and annoyance with them generally (I dunno if the US has a similar perceptual barrier at $20 or if it's more like $30).</p><p></p><p>They've made themselves very profitable temporarily, after struggling.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9184748, member: 18"] The Suits thing I personally think is good news. The biggest issue with streaming right now, imho, is that it's completely failed to fulfil the promise of streaming, which is being able to legally view the shows you want, somewhere, at least. Right now, in the UK anyway, huge numbers of shows that are relatively recent and not poorly regarded (last 5-20 years) and even larger numbers of movies from 10-50 years old are just not possible to stream anywhere. I've noticed Netflix has cut an awful lot of stuff that was sort of "deeper catalogue" - i.e. shows of the same sort of vintage as Suits - here, whilst upping prices drastically to the point where they're now more expensive than the most "prestige" UK streaming service, which basically has HBO's shows and hoovers up a bunch of other more prestige-y TV in a very annoying fashion. Hopefully this will cause them to reverse course on that. To be honest in a lot of cases I really would rather they had multiple old show rather than one new show, especially as they have a 90% chance to cull all new shows after 1-2 seasons. I mean, like, let's revisit in 5-10 years and see if that's still the case. They were basically saying they were in trouble a couple of years ago, and now you're seemingly claiming they are godlike, unkillable, and surely there is no hubris whatsoever involved in any of this! I think they'll be a presence for a very long time, but I could easily see them fading in popularity in English-speaking countries. That might not impact their bottom line very much of course, I don't know. It would certainly impact their relevance, however. Sure, but this is an interesting point to me, because I used to be able to casually watch Netflix in that way, but they've really cut down on the sort of shows that are really casually watchable, and their reality TV output, which is significant, is mostly unwatchable, like endless cake shows which feel Black Mirror like in their uniformity. I tried to background-watch a cocktail show on Netflix but it was too offensively bad. How do you make that kind of TV too offensively bad? Like I should barely be noticing it's even on! Their glassblowing show on the other was surprisingly captivating (but has very few episodes per season, I guess it's surprisingly expensive to make for that kind of show or something). Their docos are getting worse and worse too, and I know I'm not the only one noticing these things because co-workers keep bringing stuff like this up. Given that they were in trouble recently, I just don't buy the well-oiled machine line. They were screwing up. They made a load of cuts to both the amount of content they had, and the amount they were making, and fired a bunch of people, and they raised prices vastly beyond inflation, whilst squeezing really hard on password sharing. And you're saying, oh they're so smart, they'll keep making $$$ forever (that's how I understand "they've won" - maybe that's not what you meant though, but to me "won" implies nigh-permanence in this context), and I'm like, will they? They can't keep doing that repeatedly. You can squeeze password sharing ONCE ever. That's it. You're done. You can fire a bunch more people but then there'll be hardly anyone working there. If they raise the prices again by the same amount in the UK, they're going to go through £20 barrier, and I guarantee that will cause a lot of cancellations and annoyance with them generally (I dunno if the US has a similar perceptual barrier at $20 or if it's more like $30). They've made themselves very profitable temporarily, after struggling. [/QUOTE]
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