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<blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 9070027" data-attributes="member: 2629"><p>There are countless court cases over differing opinions of literal translations. My emphasis pointed to a subtle different reading. I'll reiterate it a bit differently by asking the essential question: Do you or anyone you know eat hamburgers? Keep that answer in mind.</p><p></p><p>Going back to the text: In one interpretation, you'd read the entire section, apply the language you read to the facts at hand, and then determine if the component is being consumed in the instance of the spell you are casting. If the spell is consuming the component during the instance of the spell, the component was required.</p><p></p><p>In the other interpretation, you determine if the spell has a section that describes consuming the component. If so, the spell does state that the spell does consume the component. This is similar to how I consume hamburgers. I do not consume them all the time, obviously, but I sure as heck do consume them, and in fact, I would argue that I perhaps consume them too often. The component is consumed by the spell, just like hamburgers are consumed by me. Because the spell is a spell that consumes that material component, the spell is a spell that requires that material component in order to be cast.</p><p></p><p>You could even take this further and say that disintegrate always requires material components because the spell could target the components of the spell, and disintegration consumes a target, much like a fire consumes the material it breaks down to ash. Because disintegrate consumes objects, and your components would inherently be within range of the spell and could be consumed by it if the target of the spell, disintegrate is a spell that consumes the components. And before you say no spellcaster has ever consumed their own components with this spell: I did. Not by intent, but I cast a disintegrate spell in an older prebuilt module - and a monster covered by an illusion was a spellcaster that had spell turning up and my spellcaster disintegrated himself and everything he was carrying. That was the end of a PC I had played off and on for 8 years.</p><p></p><p>As I said - weak argument in my mind and even weaker when you take it to extremes, but similar arguments win out in court all the time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jgsugden, post: 9070027, member: 2629"] There are countless court cases over differing opinions of literal translations. My emphasis pointed to a subtle different reading. I'll reiterate it a bit differently by asking the essential question: Do you or anyone you know eat hamburgers? Keep that answer in mind. Going back to the text: In one interpretation, you'd read the entire section, apply the language you read to the facts at hand, and then determine if the component is being consumed in the instance of the spell you are casting. If the spell is consuming the component during the instance of the spell, the component was required. In the other interpretation, you determine if the spell has a section that describes consuming the component. If so, the spell does state that the spell does consume the component. This is similar to how I consume hamburgers. I do not consume them all the time, obviously, but I sure as heck do consume them, and in fact, I would argue that I perhaps consume them too often. The component is consumed by the spell, just like hamburgers are consumed by me. Because the spell is a spell that consumes that material component, the spell is a spell that requires that material component in order to be cast. You could even take this further and say that disintegrate always requires material components because the spell could target the components of the spell, and disintegration consumes a target, much like a fire consumes the material it breaks down to ash. Because disintegrate consumes objects, and your components would inherently be within range of the spell and could be consumed by it if the target of the spell, disintegrate is a spell that consumes the components. And before you say no spellcaster has ever consumed their own components with this spell: I did. Not by intent, but I cast a disintegrate spell in an older prebuilt module - and a monster covered by an illusion was a spellcaster that had spell turning up and my spellcaster disintegrated himself and everything he was carrying. That was the end of a PC I had played off and on for 8 years. As I said - weak argument in my mind and even weaker when you take it to extremes, but similar arguments win out in court all the time. [/QUOTE]
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