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<blockquote data-quote="MUKid" data-source="post: 1049694" data-attributes="member: 4289"><p><strong>More specifically</strong></p><p></p><p>Okay, let's take a specific example, like WoTC and 3.5. Now, at my FLGS (great acronym, took me a second to figure it out) they rely a lot on their D&D sales, and 3.5 is a big boost for them. At GenCon, you could buy all three books for retail and get a free book bag. There were people in my group who said, "Well, we're gonna buy this stuff anyway, might as well buy them here and get a bookbag." If the 3 people in my group alone that bought 3.5 had waited, our game store would have made $270 more.</p><p></p><p>I asked the store's owner what he thought about this, and he was p'ed. His point was that $270 isn't much to WoTC, who gets a few more bucks per book by selling it at GenCon. But to him, $270 is a pretty darn good sale. He wanted to know why WoTC couldn't send those book bags to retailers, so they could offer the same deal.</p><p></p><p>Even worse, there were companies at the convention that were selling product that won't be available in stores at all for another month or two. Now this *really* made the owner mad, because in this case, he felt that the game in question was one that he supported quite a bit locally with few to no rewards. To him, his efforts could be spent supporting some other game with a publisher that gave him better perks.</p><p></p><p>Truthfully, the publishers need the stores in order to stay in business, so I don't think it's wise to anger the store owners by stealing sales from them. My local store could easily stop carrying many products and most gamers would never notice (not true with WoTC stuff of course, but smaller press companies would be easy to boycott).</p><p></p><p>At the same time, I'm not convinced that the amount of product sold at GenCon makes a hill of beans worth of difference to my local store when all is said and done. After all, I spent maybe $200 at GenCon on various stuff, but I probably spend $1000 a year at the store. Would I spend more, or less, if I didn't go to GenCon and buy stuff?</p><p></p><p>By the way, my FLGS rocks, and is easily the best store I've ever seen (and I've been to many). The staff is all very friendly and encouraged to play lots of games so they know what to recommend to customers. There are toys in the store for little kids to play with while parents shop (my son is 3 and loves going there, he's a little geek like me...) There is tons of gaming space, and even a big dining room table where you can go and take your lunch if you're out and about, and the owners will chat with you while you munch. They carry TONS of product -- all things d20, almost all the in-print GURPS books, Shadowrun, L5R, White Wolf (all the lines), plus German board games, minis, and strategic board games. They sponsor probably ten events a week, with prize support for most, and demo board games on weekends. I've seen as many as 50-60 people in the store at once, playing D&D, Void, 40k, Heroclix, Mechwarrior, and board games. It's cool.</p><p></p><p>So of course I want to support them, but I also like buying stuff at GenCon after shopping... oh what's a gamer to do?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MUKid, post: 1049694, member: 4289"] [b]More specifically[/b] Okay, let's take a specific example, like WoTC and 3.5. Now, at my FLGS (great acronym, took me a second to figure it out) they rely a lot on their D&D sales, and 3.5 is a big boost for them. At GenCon, you could buy all three books for retail and get a free book bag. There were people in my group who said, "Well, we're gonna buy this stuff anyway, might as well buy them here and get a bookbag." If the 3 people in my group alone that bought 3.5 had waited, our game store would have made $270 more. I asked the store's owner what he thought about this, and he was p'ed. His point was that $270 isn't much to WoTC, who gets a few more bucks per book by selling it at GenCon. But to him, $270 is a pretty darn good sale. He wanted to know why WoTC couldn't send those book bags to retailers, so they could offer the same deal. Even worse, there were companies at the convention that were selling product that won't be available in stores at all for another month or two. Now this *really* made the owner mad, because in this case, he felt that the game in question was one that he supported quite a bit locally with few to no rewards. To him, his efforts could be spent supporting some other game with a publisher that gave him better perks. Truthfully, the publishers need the stores in order to stay in business, so I don't think it's wise to anger the store owners by stealing sales from them. My local store could easily stop carrying many products and most gamers would never notice (not true with WoTC stuff of course, but smaller press companies would be easy to boycott). At the same time, I'm not convinced that the amount of product sold at GenCon makes a hill of beans worth of difference to my local store when all is said and done. After all, I spent maybe $200 at GenCon on various stuff, but I probably spend $1000 a year at the store. Would I spend more, or less, if I didn't go to GenCon and buy stuff? By the way, my FLGS rocks, and is easily the best store I've ever seen (and I've been to many). The staff is all very friendly and encouraged to play lots of games so they know what to recommend to customers. There are toys in the store for little kids to play with while parents shop (my son is 3 and loves going there, he's a little geek like me...) There is tons of gaming space, and even a big dining room table where you can go and take your lunch if you're out and about, and the owners will chat with you while you munch. They carry TONS of product -- all things d20, almost all the in-print GURPS books, Shadowrun, L5R, White Wolf (all the lines), plus German board games, minis, and strategic board games. They sponsor probably ten events a week, with prize support for most, and demo board games on weekends. I've seen as many as 50-60 people in the store at once, playing D&D, Void, 40k, Heroclix, Mechwarrior, and board games. It's cool. So of course I want to support them, but I also like buying stuff at GenCon after shopping... oh what's a gamer to do? [/QUOTE]
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