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<blockquote data-quote="Caliburn101" data-source="post: 7459651" data-attributes="member: 6802178"><p>My admittedly repeated mistake proceeding from the assumption that the dictionary definitions of words are those understood by people using English to communicate with.</p><p></p><p>As for the bolded part of your response - you should consider that this kind of thing also has the appearance of doing so when those who are wrong critique someone who is right demanding ever more myopic clarifications on this word or that, that phrase or the other (targeted incrementally out of context) in order to massage the debate into a 'winning' position by them. Some might even then characterise the respondent as having been guilty of the same tactic to cover their own verbal sleight of hand.</p><p></p><p>This draws in a lot of people because they understandably cannot be bothered to take all the time necessary to backtrack the argument to it's source point and follow it with an analytical frame of mind. The one doing it can then accuse first and like every kid in the playground knows, as they called foul first with something at least appearing to be some kind of justification group-think will assume there is no smoke without fire, and they can trumpet their 'win' either directly or by a generally framed reference to the specific person, so as not to trigger moderation.</p><p></p><p>Most people on here who cynically and consistently indulge in that sort of thing are on my ignore list, but it's a common enough tactic to be almost unavoidable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Caliburn101, post: 7459651, member: 6802178"] My admittedly repeated mistake proceeding from the assumption that the dictionary definitions of words are those understood by people using English to communicate with. As for the bolded part of your response - you should consider that this kind of thing also has the appearance of doing so when those who are wrong critique someone who is right demanding ever more myopic clarifications on this word or that, that phrase or the other (targeted incrementally out of context) in order to massage the debate into a 'winning' position by them. Some might even then characterise the respondent as having been guilty of the same tactic to cover their own verbal sleight of hand. This draws in a lot of people because they understandably cannot be bothered to take all the time necessary to backtrack the argument to it's source point and follow it with an analytical frame of mind. The one doing it can then accuse first and like every kid in the playground knows, as they called foul first with something at least appearing to be some kind of justification group-think will assume there is no smoke without fire, and they can trumpet their 'win' either directly or by a generally framed reference to the specific person, so as not to trigger moderation. Most people on here who cynically and consistently indulge in that sort of thing are on my ignore list, but it's a common enough tactic to be almost unavoidable. [/QUOTE]
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