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[SWADE] Better Medieval Armor and Weapons - My Take
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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 8072890" data-attributes="member: 32164"><p>I don't currently have it made for D&D/d20 Systems, because the "Armor Class represents Parry/Dodge AND Injury Minimization (sort of)" means it's a bit harder to figure out the stats. I'm revisiting the topic at greater length in my thread about combat systems in RPGs, and I'll definitely touch on what I'd do for a D&D/d20 game there.</p><p></p><p>Short version: Gambesons and Leather should probably be equal, and just below mail. Chain and Scale are pretty similar protection-wise, and the 10-point system means you have more room for fiddly distinctions. So, off the top of my head (and without worrying too much about "balance"):</p><p></p><p>Historically-Based Medieval Armor for 5e:</p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><strong>Armor</strong></td><td><strong>Cost</strong></td><td><strong>Armor Class (AC)</strong></td><td><strong>Strength</strong></td><td><strong>Stealth</strong></td><td><strong>Weight</strong></td></tr><tr><td><em>Light Armor</em></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Light Leather</td><td>5 gp</td><td>11 + Dex Modifier</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>5 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Padded Vest</td><td>10 gp</td><td>12 + Dex Modifier</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>5 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td><em>Medium Armor</em></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Gambeson</td><td>25 gp</td><td>13 + Dex (Max 2)</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>10 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Buffcoat/Hard Leather</td><td>35 gp</td><td>13 + Dex (Max 2)</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>15 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Chain Shirt</td><td>75 gp</td><td>13 + Dex (Max 2)</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>20 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Brigandine</td><td>100 gp</td><td>14 + Dex (Max 2)</td><td>-</td><td>-</td><td>15 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Scale</td><td>150 gp</td><td>15 + Dex (Max 2)</td><td>-</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>35 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Mail</td><td>150 gp</td><td>15 + Dex (Max 2)</td><td>-</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>35 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Breast Plate</td><td>200 gp</td><td>15 + Dex (Max 2)</td><td>-</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>25 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td><em>Heavy Armor</em></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Lamellar</td><td>50 gp</td><td>15</td><td>-</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>40 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Brigandine & Mail</td><td>200 gp</td><td>16</td><td>St 13</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>50 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Plate & Mail</td><td>400 gp</td><td>17</td><td>Str 13</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>60 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Full Plate</td><td>1,500 gp</td><td>18</td><td>Str 15</td><td>Disadvantage</td><td>65 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td><em>Shield</em></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td><td></td></tr><tr><td>Buckler</td><td>10 gp</td><td>+1</td><td></td><td></td><td>4 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Medium Shield (Round/Heater)</td><td>25 gp</td><td>+2</td><td></td><td></td><td>6 lbs.</td></tr><tr><td>Heavy Shield (Kite/Pavis)</td><td>50 gp</td><td>+3</td><td></td><td></td><td>10 lbs.</td></tr></table></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 8072890, member: 32164"] I don't currently have it made for D&D/d20 Systems, because the "Armor Class represents Parry/Dodge AND Injury Minimization (sort of)" means it's a bit harder to figure out the stats. I'm revisiting the topic at greater length in my thread about combat systems in RPGs, and I'll definitely touch on what I'd do for a D&D/d20 game there. Short version: Gambesons and Leather should probably be equal, and just below mail. Chain and Scale are pretty similar protection-wise, and the 10-point system means you have more room for fiddly distinctions. So, off the top of my head (and without worrying too much about "balance"): Historically-Based Medieval Armor for 5e: [TABLE] [TR] [TD][B]Armor[/B][/TD] [TD][B]Cost[/B][/TD] [TD][B]Armor Class (AC)[/B][/TD] [TD][B]Strength[/B][/TD] [TD][B]Stealth[/B][/TD] [TD][B]Weight[/B][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][I]Light Armor[/I][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Light Leather[/TD] [TD]5 gp[/TD] [TD]11 + Dex Modifier[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]5 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Padded Vest[/TD] [TD]10 gp[/TD] [TD]12 + Dex Modifier[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]5 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][I]Medium Armor[/I][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Gambeson[/TD] [TD]25 gp[/TD] [TD]13 + Dex (Max 2)[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]10 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Buffcoat/Hard Leather[/TD] [TD]35 gp[/TD] [TD]13 + Dex (Max 2)[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]15 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Chain Shirt[/TD] [TD]75 gp[/TD] [TD]13 + Dex (Max 2)[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]20 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Brigandine[/TD] [TD]100 gp[/TD] [TD]14 + Dex (Max 2)[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]15 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Scale[/TD] [TD]150 gp[/TD] [TD]15 + Dex (Max 2)[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]Disadvantage[/TD] [TD]35 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mail[/TD] [TD]150 gp[/TD] [TD]15 + Dex (Max 2)[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]Disadvantage[/TD] [TD]35 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Breast Plate[/TD] [TD]200 gp[/TD] [TD]15 + Dex (Max 2)[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]Disadvantage[/TD] [TD]25 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][I]Heavy Armor[/I][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Lamellar[/TD] [TD]50 gp[/TD] [TD]15[/TD] [TD]-[/TD] [TD]Disadvantage[/TD] [TD]40 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Brigandine & Mail[/TD] [TD]200 gp[/TD] [TD]16[/TD] [TD]St 13[/TD] [TD]Disadvantage[/TD] [TD]50 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Plate & Mail[/TD] [TD]400 gp[/TD] [TD]17[/TD] [TD]Str 13[/TD] [TD]Disadvantage[/TD] [TD]60 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Full Plate[/TD] [TD]1,500 gp[/TD] [TD]18[/TD] [TD]Str 15[/TD] [TD]Disadvantage[/TD] [TD]65 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][I]Shield[/I][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Buckler[/TD] [TD]10 gp[/TD] [TD]+1[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]4 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Medium Shield (Round/Heater)[/TD] [TD]25 gp[/TD] [TD]+2[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]6 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Heavy Shield (Kite/Pavis)[/TD] [TD]50 gp[/TD] [TD]+3[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD]10 lbs.[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [/QUOTE]
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