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Target 20 as new to-hit mechanic?
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<blockquote data-quote="dkyle" data-source="post: 5844376" data-attributes="member: 70707"><p>This would be more clearly stated as:</p><p></p><p>[d20 + Number on PC's sheet] compared to [Number on Monster's stat block]</p><p></p><p>vs.</p><p></p><p>[d20 + Number on PC's sheet + Number on Monster's stat block] compared to 20</p><p></p><p>You're glossing over what that combined number means, and producing that combined number is where the real disadvantage of Target 20 lies.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are two variables in both cases. But the difference is that your daughter has to add those numbers together, plus the d20. Whereas his doesn't even need to know what the monster's AC is, and only adds the number on her character's sheet. He only tells the AC to her because he <em>wants</em> to make it more complicated for her. But if he wanted to make things simpler, he has the option of her telling him her result, and he does the comparison. There's no simplification for yours, unless you have her tell you the result before adding the AC, in which case the "Target 20" has no impact to her. She's just doing exactly the same thing as in 3E/4E d20 system, but you're doing an extra addition, instead of just doing a simple comparison.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you're overestimating the complexity of comparison to "arbitrary numbers". It's hard for me to see a comparison ever being more complicated than an addition of numbers, unless the comparison involves numbers that are vastly higher than the addition, which is not the case here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dkyle, post: 5844376, member: 70707"] This would be more clearly stated as: [d20 + Number on PC's sheet] compared to [Number on Monster's stat block] vs. [d20 + Number on PC's sheet + Number on Monster's stat block] compared to 20 You're glossing over what that combined number means, and producing that combined number is where the real disadvantage of Target 20 lies. There are two variables in both cases. But the difference is that your daughter has to add those numbers together, plus the d20. Whereas his doesn't even need to know what the monster's AC is, and only adds the number on her character's sheet. He only tells the AC to her because he [i]wants[/i] to make it more complicated for her. But if he wanted to make things simpler, he has the option of her telling him her result, and he does the comparison. There's no simplification for yours, unless you have her tell you the result before adding the AC, in which case the "Target 20" has no impact to her. She's just doing exactly the same thing as in 3E/4E d20 system, but you're doing an extra addition, instead of just doing a simple comparison. I think you're overestimating the complexity of comparison to "arbitrary numbers". It's hard for me to see a comparison ever being more complicated than an addition of numbers, unless the comparison involves numbers that are vastly higher than the addition, which is not the case here. [/QUOTE]
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