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<blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 1400561" data-attributes="member: 317"><p>Obviously each person's tastes will differ, but I loathe the new look. I won't list every piece I dislike (I'd be here all day), but only the ones I find most jarring. I'd classify the following art as dungeonpunk/fetish/simply foolish looking:</p><p></p><p>PHB 3.5:</p><p>Regdar p38- his armor would restrict his movement, and too many spikes</p><p>Alhandra p43- again, silly armor that leaves her abdomin and legs unprotected</p><p>Lidda p50- buckle & strap fetish</p><p>Hennet p51- buckle & strap fesish/S&M costume</p><p>Mialee p56- what the hell is that thing she is wearing? looks like something out of a bad porno- pretty much all pics of Mialee suck</p><p>Nebin p57- not as bad, but why the aviator's goggles?</p><p>S&M cleric on P93</p><p>Devis p105- ok, he's a bard, but even that costume is a little to froo-froo</p><p>Armor on p133- once again, spikes restrict movement</p><p></p><p>DMG 3.5:</p><p>Part on P16- just ugh, terrible</p><p>Dungeonpunk elves and orcs p22-23</p><p>Mialee p39</p><p>Dude on p169- just silly looking</p><p>Arcane Archer/dominatrix p176</p><p>Pregnant Loremaster p191</p><p>Anime elf p263</p><p></p><p>MM 3.5:</p><p>For the most part, the 3.5 MM has poor to good art. Some armor is a little silly looking (like the bugbear), but nothing too bad. The big improvements here are in the new demon & devil pics (I love the Balor), and some of the new art included in the revision. I still don't like WAR though.</p><p></p><p>The art in the splatbooks tends to be worse and more dungeonpunkish, but I won't go through and list every piece there.</p><p></p><p>My main problem with the new art is that it has no context (no scenes), and simply looks cartoonish or impressionistic (same reason I hate Tony DiTerlizzi). When I look at a picture, I want to know what that critter or person looks like in that world, not some overly cartoonish, super-stylized, anime-ish looking tripe. IMO, Easley, Elmore, Parkinson, and some of the old crowd of painters will never be surpassed. I'm not even asking for historical medieval artwork (though that would be MUCH better than what we have now), but just more realistic depictions of characters. A lot of historical medieval arms, armor, and clothing would look VERY fantastical to us today (especially Eastern European). Heck, the costumes in the recent LotR movies were really incredible, were completely fantasy, and don't look anywhere near as foolish as the stuff in the core books. There are a lot of good artists out there right now. David Griffith is one of my favorites- he does exceptional scenes, and the faces on his people are very expressive and lifelike. Brian LeBlanc does some exceptional work for Necromancer- his images are dark, gritty, and very "old school", and have tons of atmosphere and character. I'd much rather have their B&W stiff than the color work we have coming from WotC now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gothmog, post: 1400561, member: 317"] Obviously each person's tastes will differ, but I loathe the new look. I won't list every piece I dislike (I'd be here all day), but only the ones I find most jarring. I'd classify the following art as dungeonpunk/fetish/simply foolish looking: PHB 3.5: Regdar p38- his armor would restrict his movement, and too many spikes Alhandra p43- again, silly armor that leaves her abdomin and legs unprotected Lidda p50- buckle & strap fetish Hennet p51- buckle & strap fesish/S&M costume Mialee p56- what the hell is that thing she is wearing? looks like something out of a bad porno- pretty much all pics of Mialee suck Nebin p57- not as bad, but why the aviator's goggles? S&M cleric on P93 Devis p105- ok, he's a bard, but even that costume is a little to froo-froo Armor on p133- once again, spikes restrict movement DMG 3.5: Part on P16- just ugh, terrible Dungeonpunk elves and orcs p22-23 Mialee p39 Dude on p169- just silly looking Arcane Archer/dominatrix p176 Pregnant Loremaster p191 Anime elf p263 MM 3.5: For the most part, the 3.5 MM has poor to good art. Some armor is a little silly looking (like the bugbear), but nothing too bad. The big improvements here are in the new demon & devil pics (I love the Balor), and some of the new art included in the revision. I still don't like WAR though. The art in the splatbooks tends to be worse and more dungeonpunkish, but I won't go through and list every piece there. My main problem with the new art is that it has no context (no scenes), and simply looks cartoonish or impressionistic (same reason I hate Tony DiTerlizzi). When I look at a picture, I want to know what that critter or person looks like in that world, not some overly cartoonish, super-stylized, anime-ish looking tripe. IMO, Easley, Elmore, Parkinson, and some of the old crowd of painters will never be surpassed. I'm not even asking for historical medieval artwork (though that would be MUCH better than what we have now), but just more realistic depictions of characters. A lot of historical medieval arms, armor, and clothing would look VERY fantastical to us today (especially Eastern European). Heck, the costumes in the recent LotR movies were really incredible, were completely fantasy, and don't look anywhere near as foolish as the stuff in the core books. There are a lot of good artists out there right now. David Griffith is one of my favorites- he does exceptional scenes, and the faces on his people are very expressive and lifelike. Brian LeBlanc does some exceptional work for Necromancer- his images are dark, gritty, and very "old school", and have tons of atmosphere and character. I'd much rather have their B&W stiff than the color work we have coming from WotC now. [/QUOTE]
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