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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8798162" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>It's almost like I didn't argue that. Oh wait...<em>I didn't</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which you must pay money for...exactly as I said...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which don't do any better about <em>teaching</em> than the book does...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which shouldn't be <em>required</em> to learn how to play...and come from third parties, to boot! (Indeed, how many people have <em>explicitly</em> said that trying to imitate Matt Mercer is actually doing a <em>disservice</em> to the community?)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Because you never ever get crappy free advice. Ever. That would be impossible! Free advice is always super valuable and effective and never ever needs to be heavily filtered in ways that <em>only an experienced person would know how to do</em>.</p><p></p><p>I, too, can do sarcasm. It doesn't help make your position more compelling. Quite the opposite, in fact--it generally makes the person you're talking to dig in their heels purely out of resentment.</p><p></p><p>My core point: Free advice is often worth less than what you paid for it. Separating <em>good</em> free advice from <em>bad</em> free advice usually requires being at least as knowledgeable as the people giving the advice in the first place.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No idea what those are, haven't heard the first thing about them. Even if I had, <em>eight years</em> after publication is something of a fault all on its own, wouldn't you say?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. I genuinely 100% believe that new DMs <em>do</em> need more help, and that <em>the foundational books upon which the game is built should contribute to that</em>. You saying it sarcastically does not mean it's incorrect.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Given literally all I'm asking for IS improvement, your scathing, hostile tone seems unwarranted and extremely counter-productive, as noted.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Whereas I 100% believe it is having that. Unless you have some data to back up that assertion--which I doubt you have any more than I do, aka, none--raising this line of response advances the discussion exactly <em>not at all</em>. Wouldn't it be better, more useful, more productive, to instead say, "Alright. I can see you aren't happy with the way things are. Personally, I am, and I haven't seen any evidence that there's a major issue. What kind of changes are you talking about, then? How much effect do you think these changes will have?" rather than being rude, dismissive, and sarcastic?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8798162, member: 6790260"] It's almost like I didn't argue that. Oh wait...[I]I didn't[/I]. Which you must pay money for...exactly as I said... Which don't do any better about [I]teaching[/I] than the book does... Which shouldn't be [I]required[/I] to learn how to play...and come from third parties, to boot! (Indeed, how many people have [I]explicitly[/I] said that trying to imitate Matt Mercer is actually doing a [I]disservice[/I] to the community?) Because you never ever get crappy free advice. Ever. That would be impossible! Free advice is always super valuable and effective and never ever needs to be heavily filtered in ways that [I]only an experienced person would know how to do[/I]. I, too, can do sarcasm. It doesn't help make your position more compelling. Quite the opposite, in fact--it generally makes the person you're talking to dig in their heels purely out of resentment. My core point: Free advice is often worth less than what you paid for it. Separating [I]good[/I] free advice from [I]bad[/I] free advice usually requires being at least as knowledgeable as the people giving the advice in the first place. No idea what those are, haven't heard the first thing about them. Even if I had, [I]eight years[/I] after publication is something of a fault all on its own, wouldn't you say? Yes. I genuinely 100% believe that new DMs [I]do[/I] need more help, and that [I]the foundational books upon which the game is built should contribute to that[/I]. You saying it sarcastically does not mean it's incorrect. Given literally all I'm asking for IS improvement, your scathing, hostile tone seems unwarranted and extremely counter-productive, as noted. Whereas I 100% believe it is having that. Unless you have some data to back up that assertion--which I doubt you have any more than I do, aka, none--raising this line of response advances the discussion exactly [I]not at all[/I]. Wouldn't it be better, more useful, more productive, to instead say, "Alright. I can see you aren't happy with the way things are. Personally, I am, and I haven't seen any evidence that there's a major issue. What kind of changes are you talking about, then? How much effect do you think these changes will have?" rather than being rude, dismissive, and sarcastic? [/QUOTE]
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