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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6234228" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>CJ, you seem to be writing in a fast-forward mode, as if everyone already knew what you were thinking. You leave huge gaps and kind of expect that everyone else need merely be reminded of what fills them in.</p><p></p><p>So yes, I am reading your posts. What I'm not reading is your mind. </p><p></p><p>To answer the others: How to build AC 25 at 1st level:</p><p></p><p>Don't start at 1st level, start at 10th. (i.e. you asked the wrong question.)</p><p></p><p>or... </p><p></p><p>Start out at 10th level, with appropriate gear, then get level drained down to 1st level. (i.e. you asked the wrong question, but get at least a bad faith answer).</p><p></p><p>or... </p><p></p><p>Buy a ten foot ladder with 5 cp of your starting money. Sell it for 2 sp as two ten foot poles (half market value). Rinse/repeat until you've accumulated enough wealth to buy +5 mithral plate, a +5 mithral shield and a +5 Ring of Protection. (i.e. you never said they were limited to a 1st level budget.)</p><p></p><p>See? Simple. At least it is if you're willing to ignore rules, sense, or the question asked. Do that and it's as easy as pie.</p><p></p><p>On a more serious note: Build your character with a good Dex (16 or higher), and the Precocious Apprentice build, with the appropriate caster level boosts. Now cast <em>Mage Armor</em> and <em>Shield. </em>You're at AC 21 right there.</p><p></p><p><em>Alter Self</em> into the form of your choice with at least a +4 Natural Armor and you're at AC 25+. For two minutes, until your <em>Shield</em> goes down. And your <em>Alter Self</em> goes down. and your <em>Mage Armor </em>goes down.</p><p></p><p>AC 25, just walking around, sans buffs? Much harder.</p><p></p><p>So, since the original question had to do with a Ranger (not a Precocious Apprentice), and a walking around AC, not AC with short term buffs or high miss-chance or questions about how to be a Ranger changing to Druid without changing to Druid, let's ignore CJ's off topic nonsense. The questions are right, and his off point non-answers are, well, off point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6234228, member: 6669384"] CJ, you seem to be writing in a fast-forward mode, as if everyone already knew what you were thinking. You leave huge gaps and kind of expect that everyone else need merely be reminded of what fills them in. So yes, I am reading your posts. What I'm not reading is your mind. To answer the others: How to build AC 25 at 1st level: Don't start at 1st level, start at 10th. (i.e. you asked the wrong question.) or... Start out at 10th level, with appropriate gear, then get level drained down to 1st level. (i.e. you asked the wrong question, but get at least a bad faith answer). or... Buy a ten foot ladder with 5 cp of your starting money. Sell it for 2 sp as two ten foot poles (half market value). Rinse/repeat until you've accumulated enough wealth to buy +5 mithral plate, a +5 mithral shield and a +5 Ring of Protection. (i.e. you never said they were limited to a 1st level budget.) See? Simple. At least it is if you're willing to ignore rules, sense, or the question asked. Do that and it's as easy as pie. On a more serious note: Build your character with a good Dex (16 or higher), and the Precocious Apprentice build, with the appropriate caster level boosts. Now cast [I]Mage Armor[/I] and [I]Shield. [/I]You're at AC 21 right there. [I]Alter Self[/I] into the form of your choice with at least a +4 Natural Armor and you're at AC 25+. For two minutes, until your [I]Shield[/I] goes down. And your [I]Alter Self[/I] goes down. and your [I]Mage Armor [/I]goes down. AC 25, just walking around, sans buffs? Much harder. So, since the original question had to do with a Ranger (not a Precocious Apprentice), and a walking around AC, not AC with short term buffs or high miss-chance or questions about how to be a Ranger changing to Druid without changing to Druid, let's ignore CJ's off topic nonsense. The questions are right, and his off point non-answers are, well, off point. [/QUOTE]
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