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<blockquote data-quote="Conaill" data-source="post: 1459777" data-attributes="member: 1264"><p><strong>Level Adjustments</strong></p><p></p><p>Level Adjustments for Awakened animals are a sticky issue - we may have to do them all by hand. There's a pre-3.5 issue of Dragon that listed fairly controversial ECL's, but that was before the whole LA issue was stabilized anyway.</p><p></p><p>The best we can hope for is to get some sort of formula to calculate LA, probably based on HD, CR, size, etc. For now, here are some awakened animals which are realtively comparable to other intelligent monsters with a known LA:</p><p></p><p>Baboon (M, 1HD, CR1/2) -> Bugbear (M, 3HD, CR2, +1 LA)</p><p></p><p>Wolf (M, 2HD, CR1) -> Worg (M, 4HD, CR2, +1 LA)</p><p></p><p>Ape (L, 4HD, CR2) -> Minotaur (L, 6HD, CR4, +2 LA)</p><p></p><p>Dire Bear (L, 12HD, CR7) -> Stone/Frost Giant (L, 14HD, CR8/9, +4 LA)</p><p></p><p></p><p>For a VERY quick-and-dirty approach to LA, you could use LA = CR - HD/3.</p><p></p><p>Why? Well, CR is calculated based on HD/3 (actually, hp / 4.5 / 3) plus adjustments for various special abilities. This does *not* tend to take into account unbalanced ability scores etc though!</p><p></p><p>------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>Estimated awakened animal Level Adjustments:</p><p></p><p><strong>Baboon: +1 LA</strong> (similar to Bugbear, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1480452#post1480452" target="_blank">Anthrop. Baboon</a>)</p><p><strong>Dire Wolf: +3 LA</strong> (similar to Aw. Tiger)</p><p><strong>Dog, Riding: +1 LA</strong> (similar to Aw. Wolf, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1480452#post1480452" target="_blank">Anthrop. Riding Dog</a>)</p><p><strong>Warhorse, Heavy: +3 LA</strong> (<a href="http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=3074951#post3074951" target="_blank">comparison with a human monk</a>)</p><p><strong>Hyena: +1 LA</strong> (similar to Aw. Wolf and Aw. Riding Dog)</p><p><strong>Tiger: +3 LA</strong> (based on <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1499886#post1499886" target="_blank">Ftr and Monk comparisons</a>)</p><p><strong>Wolf: +1 LA</strong> (similar to Worg, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1480452#post1480452" target="_blank">Anthrop. Wolf</a> and <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1473400#post1473400" target="_blank">Clr comparison</a>)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Conaill, post: 1459777, member: 1264"] [b]Level Adjustments[/b] Level Adjustments for Awakened animals are a sticky issue - we may have to do them all by hand. There's a pre-3.5 issue of Dragon that listed fairly controversial ECL's, but that was before the whole LA issue was stabilized anyway. The best we can hope for is to get some sort of formula to calculate LA, probably based on HD, CR, size, etc. For now, here are some awakened animals which are realtively comparable to other intelligent monsters with a known LA: Baboon (M, 1HD, CR1/2) -> Bugbear (M, 3HD, CR2, +1 LA) Wolf (M, 2HD, CR1) -> Worg (M, 4HD, CR2, +1 LA) Ape (L, 4HD, CR2) -> Minotaur (L, 6HD, CR4, +2 LA) Dire Bear (L, 12HD, CR7) -> Stone/Frost Giant (L, 14HD, CR8/9, +4 LA) For a VERY quick-and-dirty approach to LA, you could use LA = CR - HD/3. Why? Well, CR is calculated based on HD/3 (actually, hp / 4.5 / 3) plus adjustments for various special abilities. This does *not* tend to take into account unbalanced ability scores etc though! ------------------------------------------------------------ Estimated awakened animal Level Adjustments: [b]Baboon: +1 LA[/b] (similar to Bugbear, [url=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1480452#post1480452]Anthrop. Baboon[/url]) [b]Dire Wolf: +3 LA[/b] (similar to Aw. Tiger) [b]Dog, Riding: +1 LA[/b] (similar to Aw. Wolf, [url=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1480452#post1480452]Anthrop. Riding Dog[/url]) [b]Warhorse, Heavy: +3 LA[/b] ([url=http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=3074951#post3074951]comparison with a human monk[/url]) [b]Hyena: +1 LA[/b] (similar to Aw. Wolf and Aw. Riding Dog) [b]Tiger: +3 LA[/b] (based on [url=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1499886#post1499886]Ftr and Monk comparisons[/url]) [b]Wolf: +1 LA[/b] (similar to Worg, [url=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1480452#post1480452]Anthrop. Wolf[/url] and [url=http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1473400#post1473400]Clr comparison[/url]) [/QUOTE]
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