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The Bard isn't the jack of all trades... the Ranger is
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<blockquote data-quote="ComradeGnull" data-source="post: 6014432" data-attributes="member: 6685694"><p>How about: Ranger :: Bard as Cleric :: Wizard? Or possible: Bards are Rangers for urban environments (not literally, as in the sense of the Urban Ranger, but in that the Bard's social skills are the equivalent of wilderness survival skills.)</p><p></p><p>I don't see the Ranger ever having arcane magic. It is a wilderness 'career', and fits well to represent the skills that someone from a primitive D&D society would develop in order to survive.</p><p></p><p>The Bard is a jack of all trades not because he is a loner, but because he is a dabbler and a wanderer by nature. Making a living as an entertainer is by necessity a somewhat rootless trade- you move around a lot, you hear things, you stay in one village until you wear out your welcome, you steal a few things, you move on. The Ranger, by contrast, has favored terrains and favored enemies, which means he probably stays within one area- guarding the border of a particular settlement, or living permanently as a hunter or hermit in a particular wilderness. Bards travel, but they travel the roads and not the wilds, so they learn to fight semi-competently and make use of armor and weapons (Bards could also follow an army, since they have a ready audience and a good source of stories and gossip).</p><p></p><p>I think it comes down to what you mean by 'jack of all trades'. I don't see the Ranger being competent in social interactions or arcane magic, just as I don't see the Bard being competent in wilderness survival and healing. Nonetheless, each class is much broader and has more competencies than any of the Core 4 or a Paladin, Druid, etc., and is well suited to the environment in which they operate- the wilderness for the Ranger, society for the Bard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ComradeGnull, post: 6014432, member: 6685694"] How about: Ranger :: Bard as Cleric :: Wizard? Or possible: Bards are Rangers for urban environments (not literally, as in the sense of the Urban Ranger, but in that the Bard's social skills are the equivalent of wilderness survival skills.) I don't see the Ranger ever having arcane magic. It is a wilderness 'career', and fits well to represent the skills that someone from a primitive D&D society would develop in order to survive. The Bard is a jack of all trades not because he is a loner, but because he is a dabbler and a wanderer by nature. Making a living as an entertainer is by necessity a somewhat rootless trade- you move around a lot, you hear things, you stay in one village until you wear out your welcome, you steal a few things, you move on. The Ranger, by contrast, has favored terrains and favored enemies, which means he probably stays within one area- guarding the border of a particular settlement, or living permanently as a hunter or hermit in a particular wilderness. Bards travel, but they travel the roads and not the wilds, so they learn to fight semi-competently and make use of armor and weapons (Bards could also follow an army, since they have a ready audience and a good source of stories and gossip). I think it comes down to what you mean by 'jack of all trades'. I don't see the Ranger being competent in social interactions or arcane magic, just as I don't see the Bard being competent in wilderness survival and healing. Nonetheless, each class is much broader and has more competencies than any of the Core 4 or a Paladin, Druid, etc., and is well suited to the environment in which they operate- the wilderness for the Ranger, society for the Bard. [/QUOTE]
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