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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5405795" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>First advice is play what you want to play. ANY of the common suggestions here will be fun and will perform well in the intended role. </p><p></p><p>Specifically though the STR cleric is actually not at all underpowered. Pick a race with a STR/WIS racial bonus and you're in very good shape. Even if you go with a STR/CHA bonus you're getting excellent synergy. Dragonborn and Dwarf will both work really well, as will many others.</p><p></p><p>You have one of the very best at-will leader powers in the game with Righteous Brand. Pick up a Crusader's Weapon and a Brooch of Healing, or switch to a big nasty blade, you can pretty much take most feats that a fighter with a similar weapon load would, plus you have access to plenty of fine powers. Many of them don't really rely a huge amount on Wisdom or Cha to function. For instance Spiritual Weapon works great for a melee STR cleric. Pick a relevant domain and you can gain some nice extras. </p><p></p><p>Not really sure where the idea that STR cleric was 'MAD' really comes from, nor the idea that they were super gimped in PHB1. They weren't the most heavily supported class, but they have a LOT of weapon user support to fall back on and enough powers to do really well (just not a vast amount of choice). DP certainly fixes that if it is a concern. Basically you have a melee combatant only very slightly behind the fighters and rangers AND a very very fine healing build with some excellent combat buffs.</p><p></p><p>STR clerics aren't the sexiest of classes, they are VERY much like the old AD&D cleric, but they are a very solid build. Of course the Warpriest gets to double on Wisdom, but has VERY few power choices. It is a real tossup between them and the flavor is really pretty much the same. If you like tinkering go with the STR version, if you don't, then the WP is probably the best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5405795, member: 82106"] First advice is play what you want to play. ANY of the common suggestions here will be fun and will perform well in the intended role. Specifically though the STR cleric is actually not at all underpowered. Pick a race with a STR/WIS racial bonus and you're in very good shape. Even if you go with a STR/CHA bonus you're getting excellent synergy. Dragonborn and Dwarf will both work really well, as will many others. You have one of the very best at-will leader powers in the game with Righteous Brand. Pick up a Crusader's Weapon and a Brooch of Healing, or switch to a big nasty blade, you can pretty much take most feats that a fighter with a similar weapon load would, plus you have access to plenty of fine powers. Many of them don't really rely a huge amount on Wisdom or Cha to function. For instance Spiritual Weapon works great for a melee STR cleric. Pick a relevant domain and you can gain some nice extras. Not really sure where the idea that STR cleric was 'MAD' really comes from, nor the idea that they were super gimped in PHB1. They weren't the most heavily supported class, but they have a LOT of weapon user support to fall back on and enough powers to do really well (just not a vast amount of choice). DP certainly fixes that if it is a concern. Basically you have a melee combatant only very slightly behind the fighters and rangers AND a very very fine healing build with some excellent combat buffs. STR clerics aren't the sexiest of classes, they are VERY much like the old AD&D cleric, but they are a very solid build. Of course the Warpriest gets to double on Wisdom, but has VERY few power choices. It is a real tossup between them and the flavor is really pretty much the same. If you like tinkering go with the STR version, if you don't, then the WP is probably the best. [/QUOTE]
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