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<blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 5405903" data-attributes="member: 42040"><p>The problem is that all of the "good" attacks are based off Wisdom or Charisma. But then the damage is +Strength bonus. Or I have a Strength-based attack that grants temporary HP based on my Charisma bonus (+1) which is almost useless compared to the +5 I could get from a bard.</p><p> </p><p>For a PHB1 cleric to be as good as any PHB3 class, you have to have high scores in Str, Wis, and Cha. On top of that, being forced to have high Wis and Cha is sort of like wasting your ability scores anyway, because they are reduntant bonuses on Will Defense. </p><p> </p><p>Unless I'm just not understanding character creation, which is a possibility.</p><p> </p><p>Spreading around the ability score bonuses means that your PHB1 cleric will probably have a +3 in his highest ability score. An Essentials cleric will probably have a +4 or +5 in his highest ability score. A big difference at the current level (3rd). </p><p> </p><p>The problem with the Essentials cleric is that they are ... a little on the boring side ... and they're not on the working CB.</p><p> </p><p>Retreater</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Retreater, post: 5405903, member: 42040"] The problem is that all of the "good" attacks are based off Wisdom or Charisma. But then the damage is +Strength bonus. Or I have a Strength-based attack that grants temporary HP based on my Charisma bonus (+1) which is almost useless compared to the +5 I could get from a bard. For a PHB1 cleric to be as good as any PHB3 class, you have to have high scores in Str, Wis, and Cha. On top of that, being forced to have high Wis and Cha is sort of like wasting your ability scores anyway, because they are reduntant bonuses on Will Defense. Unless I'm just not understanding character creation, which is a possibility. Spreading around the ability score bonuses means that your PHB1 cleric will probably have a +3 in his highest ability score. An Essentials cleric will probably have a +4 or +5 in his highest ability score. A big difference at the current level (3rd). The problem with the Essentials cleric is that they are ... a little on the boring side ... and they're not on the working CB. Retreater [/QUOTE]
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