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<blockquote data-quote="coyote6" data-source="post: 413358" data-attributes="member: 1225"><p>I'm thinking that Henry's right -- the core difference of opinions is tied up in differing opinions about what it means to be Chaotic Evil, and exactly how "pure" a demon's CE-ness is. I think kenjib's & takyris' (and, tagging along, my) opinions about the basis -- alignment -- are simply different than The Serge's, UK's, etc. </p><p></p><p>(and, of course, barsoomcore thinks CE's just silly; a notion with which I have to agree, really, but alas, there are plenty of silly people in the world, so why not in fictional game worlds? Especially if it gives you nasty critters to fight. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p>There's also possibly a related (at least it strikes me as related) disagreement about the underlying cosmology behind all these embodiments of chaos and evil living in the Abyss. To wit: are demons some sort of embodiement of Chaos and Evil, or are they just beings that are chaotic and evil by nature and nurture? </p><p></p><p>In any case, it's been an interesting discussion so far. But it's almost time to leave work . . . <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>PS: A couple of times, I've thought of Green Ronin's cosmology (as presented <em>Book of the Righteous</em>, <em>Armies of the Abyss</em>, etc.); if you haven't read BotR, I highly recommend it. Very interesting cosmology.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="coyote6, post: 413358, member: 1225"] I'm thinking that Henry's right -- the core difference of opinions is tied up in differing opinions about what it means to be Chaotic Evil, and exactly how "pure" a demon's CE-ness is. I think kenjib's & takyris' (and, tagging along, my) opinions about the basis -- alignment -- are simply different than The Serge's, UK's, etc. (and, of course, barsoomcore thinks CE's just silly; a notion with which I have to agree, really, but alas, there are plenty of silly people in the world, so why not in fictional game worlds? Especially if it gives you nasty critters to fight. :) ) There's also possibly a related (at least it strikes me as related) disagreement about the underlying cosmology behind all these embodiments of chaos and evil living in the Abyss. To wit: are demons some sort of embodiement of Chaos and Evil, or are they just beings that are chaotic and evil by nature and nurture? In any case, it's been an interesting discussion so far. But it's almost time to leave work . . . ;) PS: A couple of times, I've thought of Green Ronin's cosmology (as presented [i]Book of the Righteous[/i], [i]Armies of the Abyss[/i], etc.); if you haven't read BotR, I highly recommend it. Very interesting cosmology. [/QUOTE]
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