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The Devourer: Energy Drain, Spectral Hand, Essence Trapping and Spell Deflection
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<blockquote data-quote="Solarious" data-source="post: 3104167" data-attributes="member: 27346"><p>First: I'm going to have to redesign my Liege of the Pit again. :\ </p><p></p><p>Second: I've been working with the Devourer for my little pet project (see above <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />), and while these may or may not be RAW, this is how I would rule they interact in my game.</p><p></p><p>Yes - the Spectral Hand will ignore anything that is not Deflection, Dexterity, Dodge, Divine, Profane, Sacred, or Luck. Am I missing any other AC types touch uses? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, it can use it's energy drain power with the spectral hand even without using touch spells.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it must still use a single attack when using spectral hand.</p><p></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>Yes, but it may only make a single attack, and the spectral hand will only deliver the energy drain if it does not utilize ghoul touch.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>It definitely is a death effect, although the negative energy part is less certain. If Destruction is stopped by a Death Ward, then it will stop a Trap Essence attempt as well.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>If you equate a soul with the 'essence' of a creature, then yes, the dead body and all it's equipment is left behind in the victim's square.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>Treat it as a Barghest's Feed ability: </s></p><p><s>[sblock=Feed]When a barghest slays a humanoid opponent, it can feed on the corpse, devouring both flesh and life force, as a full-round action. Feeding destroys the victim’s body and prevents any form of raising or resurrection that requires part of the corpse. There is a 50% chance that a wish, miracle, or true resurrection spell can restore a devoured victim to life. Check once for each destroyed creature. If the check fails, the creature cannot be brought back to life by mortal magic. [/sblock]</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>Dead, but resurrectable.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>Off my head: Banishment, Dismissal, Unbinding [SC], a properly worded Wish, a properly worded Miracle, and the appropiate alignment Blasphemy/Word of Chaos/Dictum/Holy Word all banish the trapped essence to it's appropiate afterlife/fate, as do other similar effects. Most other effects don't really affect a trapped essence that much: it is an intangible and will immediately be drawn to it's next fate if not trapped by a Devourer or other effect.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>Elminiate the trapped essense will rarely mean 'splat the soul', since I believe destroying souls takes more than just using the standard PHB spells. Generally, it would be harmless ejection. Of course, it depends: a Trap the Soul would suck it into the gem, while Imprisonment would... be nearly as bad as being used by a Devourer. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>No: as I have stated previously, essence, life force, and souls are intangibles, IMO.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>IMO, yes. If the Devourer is destroyed when it gets out (usually when the Maze's maximum 10 minute duration runs out, since few souls want to be returned to be munched on by the Devourer again), then it is free as normal.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>As all things uncertain should be: randomly. Roll a d10, subtract 1, then use the grid from top left corner and count down, going across and down each time you hit the rightmost axis, skipping the middle TN. Treat 1s as TN.</s></p><p><s></s></p><p><s>If the essence is important to the plot, it is the same as the victim's. PC essencess trapped are as their own alignment, of course.</s></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Solarious, post: 3104167, member: 27346"] First: I'm going to have to redesign my Liege of the Pit again. :\ Second: I've been working with the Devourer for my little pet project (see above ;)), and while these may or may not be RAW, this is how I would rule they interact in my game. Yes - the Spectral Hand will ignore anything that is not Deflection, Dexterity, Dodge, Divine, Profane, Sacred, or Luck. Am I missing any other AC types touch uses? :uhoh: Yes. Yes, it can use it's energy drain power with the spectral hand even without using touch spells. No, it must still use a single attack when using spectral hand. [s] Yes, but it may only make a single attack, and the spectral hand will only deliver the energy drain if it does not utilize ghoul touch. It definitely is a death effect, although the negative energy part is less certain. If Destruction is stopped by a Death Ward, then it will stop a Trap Essence attempt as well. If you equate a soul with the 'essence' of a creature, then yes, the dead body and all it's equipment is left behind in the victim's square. Treat it as a Barghest's Feed ability: [sblock=Feed]When a barghest slays a humanoid opponent, it can feed on the corpse, devouring both flesh and life force, as a full-round action. Feeding destroys the victim’s body and prevents any form of raising or resurrection that requires part of the corpse. There is a 50% chance that a wish, miracle, or true resurrection spell can restore a devoured victim to life. Check once for each destroyed creature. If the check fails, the creature cannot be brought back to life by mortal magic. [/sblock] Dead, but resurrectable. Off my head: Banishment, Dismissal, Unbinding [SC], a properly worded Wish, a properly worded Miracle, and the appropiate alignment Blasphemy/Word of Chaos/Dictum/Holy Word all banish the trapped essence to it's appropiate afterlife/fate, as do other similar effects. Most other effects don't really affect a trapped essence that much: it is an intangible and will immediately be drawn to it's next fate if not trapped by a Devourer or other effect. Elminiate the trapped essense will rarely mean 'splat the soul', since I believe destroying souls takes more than just using the standard PHB spells. Generally, it would be harmless ejection. Of course, it depends: a Trap the Soul would suck it into the gem, while Imprisonment would... be nearly as bad as being used by a Devourer. :] No: as I have stated previously, essence, life force, and souls are intangibles, IMO. IMO, yes. If the Devourer is destroyed when it gets out (usually when the Maze's maximum 10 minute duration runs out, since few souls want to be returned to be munched on by the Devourer again), then it is free as normal. As all things uncertain should be: randomly. Roll a d10, subtract 1, then use the grid from top left corner and count down, going across and down each time you hit the rightmost axis, skipping the middle TN. Treat 1s as TN. If the essence is important to the plot, it is the same as the victim's. PC essencess trapped are as their own alignment, of course.[/s] [/QUOTE]
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