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<blockquote data-quote="tomBitonti" data-source="post: 6354205" data-attributes="member: 13107"><p>There are the mechanics for Read Scroll and Use Magic Device to consider: That adds in failure chances. Although, these are often for non-casters attempting to create a magic effect, not for casters using the mechanics.</p><p></p><p>A problem of the hide mechanic is the timing of the opposed roll mechanic, which obscures that the hide actually did succeed: Often, you hide earlier than an opponent makes their opposed roll. But, the hide action, if conditions are appropriate, automatically succeeds, just not with 100% certainty for all eventual observers. The conditions are similar to spell conditions: If you attempt to magic missile someone who is out of range, the spell fails. If you attempt to hide in plain side (oops: the opponent has dark vision; the concealment you thought you had is not there; or, you misjudged distance or line-of-sight), the hide attempt fails. Otherwise, the hide check actually does succeed, but with a chance of not being effective due to a later opposed roll.</p><p></p><p>Thx!</p><p></p><p>TomB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tomBitonti, post: 6354205, member: 13107"] There are the mechanics for Read Scroll and Use Magic Device to consider: That adds in failure chances. Although, these are often for non-casters attempting to create a magic effect, not for casters using the mechanics. A problem of the hide mechanic is the timing of the opposed roll mechanic, which obscures that the hide actually did succeed: Often, you hide earlier than an opponent makes their opposed roll. But, the hide action, if conditions are appropriate, automatically succeeds, just not with 100% certainty for all eventual observers. The conditions are similar to spell conditions: If you attempt to magic missile someone who is out of range, the spell fails. If you attempt to hide in plain side (oops: the opponent has dark vision; the concealment you thought you had is not there; or, you misjudged distance or line-of-sight), the hide attempt fails. Otherwise, the hide check actually does succeed, but with a chance of not being effective due to a later opposed roll. Thx! TomB [/QUOTE]
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