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The Dual Wielding Ranger: How Aragorn, Drizzt, and Dual-Wielding Led to the Ranger's Loss of Identity
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<blockquote data-quote="Smarmot" data-source="post: 8242972" data-attributes="member: 6892611"><p>I'm not buying that the 2e Ranger was not largely influenced by Drizzt. The Crystal Shard was published before 2e and Drizzt was already a very popular character in that very popular novel. (I am aware that he was an afterthought as a character, despite his success.)</p><p>Drizzt as originally conceived could have been copy-pasted right out of the Unearthed Arcana as the example of a good-aligned drow character. And it was being a drow that allowed dual wielded scimitars, not being a ranger.</p><p>Since drow were not included as a playable race (at least not as distinct from other elves) when the 2nd edition PHB was printed, the only way to replicate the character's schtick (and many, many players wanted to do just that) was to give the schtick to the otherwise severely gutted ranger class.</p><p>When Hall of Heroes was printed also in 1989, it referenced the 1st edition Unearthed Arcana in the details about Drizzt. He was definitely a 1st edition character.</p><p>To me it's clear the order of events was: </p><p>Hey R.A., we need a new sidekick character to put in your novel. <em>flips through Unearthed Arcana</em> Hey how about this? We can use it now that Gary is gone, right? Crystal Shard and especially Drizzt becomes a stunning success but drow player characters have already been thrown in the naughty pile for 2nd edition. Aha! Let's rewrite rangers to keep the fan-boys happy!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Smarmot, post: 8242972, member: 6892611"] I'm not buying that the 2e Ranger was not largely influenced by Drizzt. The Crystal Shard was published before 2e and Drizzt was already a very popular character in that very popular novel. (I am aware that he was an afterthought as a character, despite his success.) Drizzt as originally conceived could have been copy-pasted right out of the Unearthed Arcana as the example of a good-aligned drow character. And it was being a drow that allowed dual wielded scimitars, not being a ranger. Since drow were not included as a playable race (at least not as distinct from other elves) when the 2nd edition PHB was printed, the only way to replicate the character's schtick (and many, many players wanted to do just that) was to give the schtick to the otherwise severely gutted ranger class. When Hall of Heroes was printed also in 1989, it referenced the 1st edition Unearthed Arcana in the details about Drizzt. He was definitely a 1st edition character. To me it's clear the order of events was: Hey R.A., we need a new sidekick character to put in your novel. [I]flips through Unearthed Arcana[/I] Hey how about this? We can use it now that Gary is gone, right? Crystal Shard and especially Drizzt becomes a stunning success but drow player characters have already been thrown in the naughty pile for 2nd edition. Aha! Let's rewrite rangers to keep the fan-boys happy! [/QUOTE]
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