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The Dual Wielding Ranger: How Aragorn, Drizzt, and Dual-Wielding Led to the Ranger's Loss of Identity
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<blockquote data-quote="Dioltach" data-source="post: 8257671" data-attributes="member: 21843"><p>I'm not a game designer, but I agree with some of the criticism of rangers that's been expressed here. I've never really been comfortable with ranger spells, mostly because they seem to have been tagged on without really adding anything: usually, by the time the ranger has access to them, power levels have increased to the point where they don't offer any real benefit. Favoured enemy seems too specific for a particular role to be such a key feature of the class.</p><p></p><p>So I'd probably do something like this:</p><p></p><p>D12 hit dice.</p><p>Bonus to save vs poison.</p><p>Lose favoured enemy, instead add something like "favoured environment" (with possibilities including not just forests, deserts, mountains etc. but also urban and underground environments). At low levels, the ranger gets bonuses on Hide, Search, Spot, Survival. Maybe bonuses on saves vs natural threats in that environment. Later on, hide in plain sight and improved initiative. A few levels up, add "nature's scout": the ranger can take the form of a bird (or other natural flying creature) native to the environment. Next is "nature's hunter", when the hunter can take the form of a big cat (or other natural hunting creature) native to the environment. Add new favoured environments along the way.</p><p></p><p>This creates a tough fighter who excels in a scouting and fighting role in particular environments, with some added supernatural abilities to spice it up. Enough versatility to work in wilderness, urban and dungeon settings.</p><p></p><p>Like I said, I'm not a game designer, so I can't judge how balanced this would be, or whether this is what other people want the ranger to be. Just saying that this is what I'd like to see.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dioltach, post: 8257671, member: 21843"] I'm not a game designer, but I agree with some of the criticism of rangers that's been expressed here. I've never really been comfortable with ranger spells, mostly because they seem to have been tagged on without really adding anything: usually, by the time the ranger has access to them, power levels have increased to the point where they don't offer any real benefit. Favoured enemy seems too specific for a particular role to be such a key feature of the class. So I'd probably do something like this: D12 hit dice. Bonus to save vs poison. Lose favoured enemy, instead add something like "favoured environment" (with possibilities including not just forests, deserts, mountains etc. but also urban and underground environments). At low levels, the ranger gets bonuses on Hide, Search, Spot, Survival. Maybe bonuses on saves vs natural threats in that environment. Later on, hide in plain sight and improved initiative. A few levels up, add "nature's scout": the ranger can take the form of a bird (or other natural flying creature) native to the environment. Next is "nature's hunter", when the hunter can take the form of a big cat (or other natural hunting creature) native to the environment. Add new favoured environments along the way. This creates a tough fighter who excels in a scouting and fighting role in particular environments, with some added supernatural abilities to spice it up. Enough versatility to work in wilderness, urban and dungeon settings. Like I said, I'm not a game designer, so I can't judge how balanced this would be, or whether this is what other people want the ranger to be. Just saying that this is what I'd like to see. [/QUOTE]
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