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<blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 3275322" data-attributes="member: 11697"><p>He still is a "nasty mo-fo", probably the one member of his ilk that I'd want least to have to deal with. He was originally an archon named Triel, and his fall from LG to LE saw him not in Baator as a punishment, but because he willingly joined the ranks of the Baatezu. It's somewhat muddled as to if he became a Lord of the 9 quickly, by seizing it from an earlier ruler, or being appointed to the position, or if he was forced to climb the heirarchy of Baator the old fashioned way: being melted down into a lemure and rising in rank from there on up the hard way over millennia, rank by rank. I suspect the latter, but in any event his becoming a fiend wasn't because of the alignment shift, but because of choice on his part and being intentionally turned into one by Asmodeus due to that choice. It makes him a more complex character, and explains much of the flavor behind his layer of Baator and why he acts the way he does.</p><p></p><p>But beyond that, the slug form wasn't a welcome to the 'hood joke, it wasn't his original form as Lot9. Now it's a question on if his original fly-headed form ala as depicted in 1e was a result of his transition from Mount Celestia to Baator, or a result of elevation to a Lot9, or self-chosen. But he had that form prior to the Reckoning, and the slug form was inflicted as punishment for his actions against Asmodeus during that event.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shemeska, post: 3275322, member: 11697"] He still is a "nasty mo-fo", probably the one member of his ilk that I'd want least to have to deal with. He was originally an archon named Triel, and his fall from LG to LE saw him not in Baator as a punishment, but because he willingly joined the ranks of the Baatezu. It's somewhat muddled as to if he became a Lord of the 9 quickly, by seizing it from an earlier ruler, or being appointed to the position, or if he was forced to climb the heirarchy of Baator the old fashioned way: being melted down into a lemure and rising in rank from there on up the hard way over millennia, rank by rank. I suspect the latter, but in any event his becoming a fiend wasn't because of the alignment shift, but because of choice on his part and being intentionally turned into one by Asmodeus due to that choice. It makes him a more complex character, and explains much of the flavor behind his layer of Baator and why he acts the way he does. But beyond that, the slug form wasn't a welcome to the 'hood joke, it wasn't his original form as Lot9. Now it's a question on if his original fly-headed form ala as depicted in 1e was a result of his transition from Mount Celestia to Baator, or a result of elevation to a Lot9, or self-chosen. But he had that form prior to the Reckoning, and the slug form was inflicted as punishment for his actions against Asmodeus during that event. [/QUOTE]
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