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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 5762005" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Off topic, not for you, but for others and adding to what you said for informational enlightenment...</p><p></p><p>IN MY OPINION...</p><p></p><p>Gygax was a great person, but he also had his own agenda. I think he REALLY wanted to push Chainmail. I think at the time he felt it was more his then D&D. </p><p></p><p>With the original rules, I think there were those that used the Chainmail rules in the early groups, but when it spread beyond Gygax's circle many read the rules and really didn't know chainmail all that much. They used alternate rules and it was awesome.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, there was a rift at that time. Think of the 3e and 4e bitterness that you sometimes see. It was different, but in some ways similar, and it wasn't between RPG buddies, it was within wargaming in relation to this new D&D thing (actually in many ways it was towards your typical Wargaming and anything dealing with adding fantasy into wargaming...which D&D/chainmail would have been seen to be a part of).</p><p></p><p>There are some people that I wargame and boardgame with that I STILL don't admit that I've ever touched D&D...some of them are quite bitter against the fantasy stuff.</p><p></p><p>One of my better (albeit newer) Boardgame/Wargame friends just found out more recently that I "dabble" in RPGs.</p><p></p><p>Some old folks can be quite crotchety.</p><p></p><p>And you also had it where those that wargamed despised D&D because not only was it not a "real wargame" as it had fantasy, but it wasn't a Wargame at ALL!!!! The Horror!!! (that last part was sarcasm, just so you know).</p><p></p><p>By the time Greyhawk was released it was probably obvious what direction D&D was headed. In my opinion Greyhawk solidified what D&D was, is, and has been ever since.</p><p></p><p>Everyone after that basically used something akin to using a D20 via the rules, or almost everyone, as far as my opinion goes.</p><p></p><p>In some groups we actually used a variation with D6's many times.......</p><p></p><p><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/angel.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angel:" title="Angel :angel:" data-shortname=":angel:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 5762005, member: 4348"] Off topic, not for you, but for others and adding to what you said for informational enlightenment... IN MY OPINION... Gygax was a great person, but he also had his own agenda. I think he REALLY wanted to push Chainmail. I think at the time he felt it was more his then D&D. With the original rules, I think there were those that used the Chainmail rules in the early groups, but when it spread beyond Gygax's circle many read the rules and really didn't know chainmail all that much. They used alternate rules and it was awesome. Furthermore, there was a rift at that time. Think of the 3e and 4e bitterness that you sometimes see. It was different, but in some ways similar, and it wasn't between RPG buddies, it was within wargaming in relation to this new D&D thing (actually in many ways it was towards your typical Wargaming and anything dealing with adding fantasy into wargaming...which D&D/chainmail would have been seen to be a part of). There are some people that I wargame and boardgame with that I STILL don't admit that I've ever touched D&D...some of them are quite bitter against the fantasy stuff. One of my better (albeit newer) Boardgame/Wargame friends just found out more recently that I "dabble" in RPGs. Some old folks can be quite crotchety. And you also had it where those that wargamed despised D&D because not only was it not a "real wargame" as it had fantasy, but it wasn't a Wargame at ALL!!!! The Horror!!! (that last part was sarcasm, just so you know). By the time Greyhawk was released it was probably obvious what direction D&D was headed. In my opinion Greyhawk solidified what D&D was, is, and has been ever since. Everyone after that basically used something akin to using a D20 via the rules, or almost everyone, as far as my opinion goes. In some groups we actually used a variation with D6's many times....... :angel: [/QUOTE]
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