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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7256807" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>I didn't miss your point. It's the same thing you said earlier. And the same thing that was debunked earlier as well. Yes, everyone gets ASIs. But no other class gets 6. 2 extra are a <em>unique feature</em> of the fighter. If all classes spend 4 ASIs to bolster up their core focus on the class, the fighter can choose to be extra specialized, or acquire the ability to be extremely good at out of combat functionality. Again, <em>choice</em>. And here you are again, insistent on ignoring these things that debunk your opinion. I know they've been pointed out to you many times already.</p><p></p><p>What's also been pointed out is how you seem to hold the fighter to a different standard. No one complains about any other class not getting a feature past levels that hardly no one plays to, but you sure do hold the fighter to that standard. </p><p></p><p>Speaking of double standards, you aren't really comparing the fighter to other non casters. Are feats on equal footing as the level 6 and 14th level class abilities of the barbarian or monk? They sure seem so in my opinion. But then again, that would be an answer to the goal post shifting. first it was "fighters don't get anything" and they do. Then it was "fighters can't do anything out of combat" which they do. And now it's "but the paladin gets a level 4 spell at 14th level. Hard to keep up when you keep shifting goalposts every time a point of yours is debunked.</p><p></p><p>And finally, once again you are objectively wrong with your last statement as has been proven many times. This isn't politics. You can't keep repeating the same falsehood and eventually think it becomes fact. In combat, the fighter brings an extra attack no one else gets (except monk and only then if you spend ki on flurry of blows). No other class gets that, and that's pretty big. A fighter can also chose every single feat any other class chooses and then gets two more. That's pretty significant as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7256807, member: 15700"] I didn't miss your point. It's the same thing you said earlier. And the same thing that was debunked earlier as well. Yes, everyone gets ASIs. But no other class gets 6. 2 extra are a [I]unique feature[/I] of the fighter. If all classes spend 4 ASIs to bolster up their core focus on the class, the fighter can choose to be extra specialized, or acquire the ability to be extremely good at out of combat functionality. Again, [I]choice[/I]. And here you are again, insistent on ignoring these things that debunk your opinion. I know they've been pointed out to you many times already. What's also been pointed out is how you seem to hold the fighter to a different standard. No one complains about any other class not getting a feature past levels that hardly no one plays to, but you sure do hold the fighter to that standard. Speaking of double standards, you aren't really comparing the fighter to other non casters. Are feats on equal footing as the level 6 and 14th level class abilities of the barbarian or monk? They sure seem so in my opinion. But then again, that would be an answer to the goal post shifting. first it was "fighters don't get anything" and they do. Then it was "fighters can't do anything out of combat" which they do. And now it's "but the paladin gets a level 4 spell at 14th level. Hard to keep up when you keep shifting goalposts every time a point of yours is debunked. And finally, once again you are objectively wrong with your last statement as has been proven many times. This isn't politics. You can't keep repeating the same falsehood and eventually think it becomes fact. In combat, the fighter brings an extra attack no one else gets (except monk and only then if you spend ki on flurry of blows). No other class gets that, and that's pretty big. A fighter can also chose every single feat any other class chooses and then gets two more. That's pretty significant as well. [/QUOTE]
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