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<blockquote data-quote="Belzamus" data-source="post: 5024336" data-attributes="member: 61612"><p>Cool flavor, makes me think of the Mortiverse. (Actually, that makes a lot sense, since there's largely no other possible way something could get that powerful.)</p><p> </p><p>As for Huitzicoatl, he honestly seems a little weak. Maybe I'm a little power-gamey, but at 20th level, no Fly speed and a Will Save of +12 seem like an open door for a one-round encounter. </p><p> </p><p>But, honestly, in practice, I'd guess between 16-20, as a solo encounter, he'd make a decent enough foe. </p><p> </p><p>Really, though, his damage even seems kind of low for his level and specialization. (Again, that's just me, thinking *why on earth would he take <em>energy resistance </em>over Greater Power Attack, PA Mastery, and Uncanny PA? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite5" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":confused:" />) And no Leap Attack with that huge Jump check?</p><p> </p><p>Also, his breath weapon seems largely tacked on. An average of 37 damage is really kind of pitiful at this point. </p><p> </p><p>Also...he has no portfolio? That could certainly give him a boost.</p><p> </p><p>Maybe some non-artifact magic items, too? Even a few could likely help him out a lot. (Unless he willingly disdains them for some reason...?) At his level, he has no reasonable expectation for them to be shut down with any degree of regularity.</p><p> </p><p>Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but a 20HD Hero-Deity should be ECL 35 (+15 from the template).</p><p> </p><p>Assuming you didn't nix anything, he should have 4 artifacts equal to +3 ECL each, or of +18 equivalent bonus value. </p><p> </p><p>His axe looks about +12</p><p> </p><p>His bow looks about +6</p><p> </p><p>And you gave him 4 extra Divine Abilities along with 12 extra feats, for a total of +6 ECL.</p><p> </p><p>So, 2+1+6= +9 ECL out of a total allotted ECL of 12. </p><p> </p><p>So, *ostensibly* his by-the-book ECl should be 32.</p><p> </p><p>But then we have to subtract for no portfolio, which for a Hero-Deity provides roughly -1.5, let's round to -2, bringing us down to ECL 30, therefor, CR 20. </p><p> </p><p><em>But... </em>given his (forgive me) unoptimized nature, I'd bump him down to CR 16 or so. I mean, a stock Balor would waste him 1v1 (Insanity/Dominate with a greater than 50% success chance)</p><p> </p><p>Then again, those are just my thoughts on the matter, I only offered them because you put a "?" in front of his CR. No need to make any changes on my behalf.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway, looking forward to seeing what else you've got. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>To sum up my suggestions: use the Epic Feats in Ascension and give him so magic items, and possibly a portfolio or two. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Belzamus, post: 5024336, member: 61612"] Cool flavor, makes me think of the Mortiverse. (Actually, that makes a lot sense, since there's largely no other possible way something could get that powerful.) As for Huitzicoatl, he honestly seems a little weak. Maybe I'm a little power-gamey, but at 20th level, no Fly speed and a Will Save of +12 seem like an open door for a one-round encounter. But, honestly, in practice, I'd guess between 16-20, as a solo encounter, he'd make a decent enough foe. Really, though, his damage even seems kind of low for his level and specialization. (Again, that's just me, thinking *why on earth would he take [I]energy resistance [/I]over Greater Power Attack, PA Mastery, and Uncanny PA? :confused:) And no Leap Attack with that huge Jump check? Also, his breath weapon seems largely tacked on. An average of 37 damage is really kind of pitiful at this point. Also...he has no portfolio? That could certainly give him a boost. Maybe some non-artifact magic items, too? Even a few could likely help him out a lot. (Unless he willingly disdains them for some reason...?) At his level, he has no reasonable expectation for them to be shut down with any degree of regularity. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but a 20HD Hero-Deity should be ECL 35 (+15 from the template). Assuming you didn't nix anything, he should have 4 artifacts equal to +3 ECL each, or of +18 equivalent bonus value. His axe looks about +12 His bow looks about +6 And you gave him 4 extra Divine Abilities along with 12 extra feats, for a total of +6 ECL. So, 2+1+6= +9 ECL out of a total allotted ECL of 12. So, *ostensibly* his by-the-book ECl should be 32. But then we have to subtract for no portfolio, which for a Hero-Deity provides roughly -1.5, let's round to -2, bringing us down to ECL 30, therefor, CR 20. [I]But... [/I]given his (forgive me) unoptimized nature, I'd bump him down to CR 16 or so. I mean, a stock Balor would waste him 1v1 (Insanity/Dominate with a greater than 50% success chance) Then again, those are just my thoughts on the matter, I only offered them because you put a "?" in front of his CR. No need to make any changes on my behalf. Anyway, looking forward to seeing what else you've got. :) To sum up my suggestions: use the Epic Feats in Ascension and give him so magic items, and possibly a portfolio or two. ;) [/QUOTE]
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