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<blockquote data-quote="MasterOfHeaven" data-source="post: 207376" data-attributes="member: 196"><p>Well, three things... One, when you polymorph someone, they are given the <em>average</em> physical statistics of the race. So the polymorphed chap would have 10s and 11s in Strength, Constitution and Dexterity. Furthermore, he would suffer the penalty for being Polymorphed into a form, and have to make the Will save each time he went into combat for a few years. </p><p></p><p>And three, unless Mostin has memorized every last facial and physical detail of his fellow party members, it is unlikely that they would be an "exact" replica. So I don't think it's a good idea.</p><p></p><p>Besides that, you could be Reincarnated into a more powerful form, and if not, instead of Polymorphing someone into a Human, why not Polymorph them into a Fire Giant, or something along those lines? You would be much more powerful, and if you're going to be Polymorphed permanently it might as well be into a combat capable form that would have a much higher chance of surviving than a Human form.</p><p></p><p>Mind you, however, that such use of Polymorph Other is really abusable, and in fact has been banned in several campaigns because of such use. Note the ECL rules that exist for monster PCs. Those rules are basically bypassed in many cases with the use of Polymorph Other into froms like a Stone Giant or Annis Hag. Polymorph Other used in this fashion is actually one of the few spells I consider "broken" in 3rd Edition, because it gives huge benefits with little to no penalty. </p><p></p><p>When the party members wish to return to a civilized area of some sort, they simply cast dispel magic, and then change shape right back into the monstrous forms, giving them high physical statistics, larger size, natural armor, etc. Really, I think Polymorph Other should be limited to an offensive spell for just this reason. </p><p></p><p>Still, that's only my experience and opinion. Your milage may vary, as always. </p><p></p><p>I think it's great that you limit both the Ressurection type spells and tone back the lethality of your encounters accordingly. I think that gives your campaign world a great sense of danger when the PCs go up against a truly dangerous opponent, since they know there is a very good chance they will not be coming back if they fail. </p><p></p><p>I might have to try that out in one of my campaigns someday. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next update of this very entertaining story hour. Great work as always, and thanks for sharing details of your campaign world.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MasterOfHeaven, post: 207376, member: 196"] Well, three things... One, when you polymorph someone, they are given the [i]average[/i] physical statistics of the race. So the polymorphed chap would have 10s and 11s in Strength, Constitution and Dexterity. Furthermore, he would suffer the penalty for being Polymorphed into a form, and have to make the Will save each time he went into combat for a few years. And three, unless Mostin has memorized every last facial and physical detail of his fellow party members, it is unlikely that they would be an "exact" replica. So I don't think it's a good idea. Besides that, you could be Reincarnated into a more powerful form, and if not, instead of Polymorphing someone into a Human, why not Polymorph them into a Fire Giant, or something along those lines? You would be much more powerful, and if you're going to be Polymorphed permanently it might as well be into a combat capable form that would have a much higher chance of surviving than a Human form. Mind you, however, that such use of Polymorph Other is really abusable, and in fact has been banned in several campaigns because of such use. Note the ECL rules that exist for monster PCs. Those rules are basically bypassed in many cases with the use of Polymorph Other into froms like a Stone Giant or Annis Hag. Polymorph Other used in this fashion is actually one of the few spells I consider "broken" in 3rd Edition, because it gives huge benefits with little to no penalty. When the party members wish to return to a civilized area of some sort, they simply cast dispel magic, and then change shape right back into the monstrous forms, giving them high physical statistics, larger size, natural armor, etc. Really, I think Polymorph Other should be limited to an offensive spell for just this reason. Still, that's only my experience and opinion. Your milage may vary, as always. I think it's great that you limit both the Ressurection type spells and tone back the lethality of your encounters accordingly. I think that gives your campaign world a great sense of danger when the PCs go up against a truly dangerous opponent, since they know there is a very good chance they will not be coming back if they fail. I might have to try that out in one of my campaigns someday. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next update of this very entertaining story hour. Great work as always, and thanks for sharing details of your campaign world. [/QUOTE]
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