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<blockquote data-quote="dark_mage" data-source="post: 5566749" data-attributes="member: 35039"><p>Hi U_K! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, right now that's not very high in my priorities list, since I don't plan to have my players fight any gods...yet <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'll try and get ahold of it then</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Speaking of Dahak, I recalled that Paizo is using him (and Apsu) as stand-ins for Tiamat/Bahamut in PF. I was thinking of maybe retconning them into the Mesopotamian pantheon, with perhaps some changes, soemthing like this: After Tiamat's defeat against Marduk (I'm assuming the D&D Tiamat is the same as the Babylonian one, PF's Gods and Magic does a nice meshing of myths in that regard) she "retires" from the pantheon, leaving her son Dahak to take her place and wreak revenge on the gods. Regarding Apsu, I'm thinking of him beign an alias/aspect of Bahamut, intervening to curb Dahak's destruction as part of Bahamut's continued struggle against Tiamat. Since the real Apsu was killed eons ago by Enki/Ea, the name was "free" for the raking, and is the identity Bahamut uses when dealing with followers of the Mesopotamian pantheon. Whew!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps, but in this case they were not very different IMO: Ki was the goddess of nature, Ninhursag was the goddess of Earth. I might end up using their Babylonian version (Belet-ili)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Too bad, he's dead! LOL, at least that was the way depicted in PS canon. They opted to have both pantheons hostile to each other, and Enki was murdered by Anshar and Nergal. Again, I think this is something easily retoconned, or else he could be replaced by his Babylonian "doppleganger", Ea ^^</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I remember seeing it in Legends & Lore, but perhaps it was also present in other sources. Regardless, I'm not too concerned by a Chaotic god having paladin levels, rather by (for example) a god who's supposed to represent Justice and Law having a Chaotic alignment.</p><p>(And no, I'm not going to do away with alignments, I liek them too much, even with all the issues they represent <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok, I have some doubts but first something that wasn't too clear to me. By villianous gods, you mean you intend them to be "evil"</p><p></p><p>What status would you give to the heroes? Just powerful mortals? or are they going into hero-deity status?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dark_mage, post: 5566749, member: 35039"] Hi U_K! ;) Well, right now that's not very high in my priorities list, since I don't plan to have my players fight any gods...yet :devil: I'll try and get ahold of it then Speaking of Dahak, I recalled that Paizo is using him (and Apsu) as stand-ins for Tiamat/Bahamut in PF. I was thinking of maybe retconning them into the Mesopotamian pantheon, with perhaps some changes, soemthing like this: After Tiamat's defeat against Marduk (I'm assuming the D&D Tiamat is the same as the Babylonian one, PF's Gods and Magic does a nice meshing of myths in that regard) she "retires" from the pantheon, leaving her son Dahak to take her place and wreak revenge on the gods. Regarding Apsu, I'm thinking of him beign an alias/aspect of Bahamut, intervening to curb Dahak's destruction as part of Bahamut's continued struggle against Tiamat. Since the real Apsu was killed eons ago by Enki/Ea, the name was "free" for the raking, and is the identity Bahamut uses when dealing with followers of the Mesopotamian pantheon. Whew! Perhaps, but in this case they were not very different IMO: Ki was the goddess of nature, Ninhursag was the goddess of Earth. I might end up using their Babylonian version (Belet-ili) Too bad, he's dead! LOL, at least that was the way depicted in PS canon. They opted to have both pantheons hostile to each other, and Enki was murdered by Anshar and Nergal. Again, I think this is something easily retoconned, or else he could be replaced by his Babylonian "doppleganger", Ea ^^ I remember seeing it in Legends & Lore, but perhaps it was also present in other sources. Regardless, I'm not too concerned by a Chaotic god having paladin levels, rather by (for example) a god who's supposed to represent Justice and Law having a Chaotic alignment. (And no, I'm not going to do away with alignments, I liek them too much, even with all the issues they represent :p) Ok, I have some doubts but first something that wasn't too clear to me. By villianous gods, you mean you intend them to be "evil" What status would you give to the heroes? Just powerful mortals? or are they going into hero-deity status? [/QUOTE]
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