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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 4661237" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>You're all forgetting the biggest reason why the hit points have gotten so high. The character's LEVELS have gotten high. The higher your level, the more hit points and damage you do.</p><p></p><p>* 4E you go to level 30</p><p>* 3E you went to level 20</p><p>* 1E you were *lucky* if you got to level 15, and most races besides human didn't even <em>let</em> you go that high (as well as a couple classes like the druid and assassin that topped you out as well).</p><p></p><p>So of course the highest level monster will have staggering numbers of hit points. It's common sense. So if you want to try and make parallels between 4E and 1E... end your skim through the Monster Manual at EL15.</p><p></p><p>Now granted, even then there is a disparate number of hit points between a Level 15 4E monster and 1E monster... but that's also because in 1E you stopped earning full HP after level 9. You got 1 to 3 HP per level and that's it. But the question you need to ask yourself is if that's really <em>fun</em>? Do you really want to cut down your 4E hit points once you reach paragon tier to a single HP per level (if you're a wizard)? If that single HP is better than so-called "grinding"... then great, more power to you! But I'm pretty sure the designers wanted leveling to actually have <em>meaning</em>. Which 1 to 3 HPs once you hit 10th level most certainly does not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 4661237, member: 7006"] You're all forgetting the biggest reason why the hit points have gotten so high. The character's LEVELS have gotten high. The higher your level, the more hit points and damage you do. * 4E you go to level 30 * 3E you went to level 20 * 1E you were *lucky* if you got to level 15, and most races besides human didn't even [I]let[/I] you go that high (as well as a couple classes like the druid and assassin that topped you out as well). So of course the highest level monster will have staggering numbers of hit points. It's common sense. So if you want to try and make parallels between 4E and 1E... end your skim through the Monster Manual at EL15. Now granted, even then there is a disparate number of hit points between a Level 15 4E monster and 1E monster... but that's also because in 1E you stopped earning full HP after level 9. You got 1 to 3 HP per level and that's it. But the question you need to ask yourself is if that's really [I]fun[/I]? Do you really want to cut down your 4E hit points once you reach paragon tier to a single HP per level (if you're a wizard)? If that single HP is better than so-called "grinding"... then great, more power to you! But I'm pretty sure the designers wanted leveling to actually have [I]meaning[/I]. Which 1 to 3 HPs once you hit 10th level most certainly does not. [/QUOTE]
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