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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 3905883" data-attributes="member: 957"><p>How about some real examples?</p><p></p><p></p><p>In my game the 14th level Barbarian attacks with a +26 when raging and usually has a +28 or so going from misc buffs. Looking in the MM at CR 13 and 14 monsters you will find that ACs are typically in the 26 -28 range (lows around 19 and highs of around 32). So the base 50% hit chance is off by approximately 50%. (and yes, a 1 is still a miss, but in the case of PA that extra point still applies because it becomes +2 damage for no cost at all). The barbarian crits on a 19 for X3. </p><p></p><p>Against AC 26 the optimum is at PA -7/+14, but the damage output is increased for any PA up to -15/+30. His BAB is not +15, so any PA he selects will increase damage.</p><p></p><p>Now assume DR5 or DR 10 and the numbers get even better.</p><p></p><p>Now, I like to mix it up and I will throw stuff with an AC of 35 at the party. But this does not slow the game down. Instead, the barbarian simply stops using PA. simple.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 3905883, member: 957"] How about some real examples? In my game the 14th level Barbarian attacks with a +26 when raging and usually has a +28 or so going from misc buffs. Looking in the MM at CR 13 and 14 monsters you will find that ACs are typically in the 26 -28 range (lows around 19 and highs of around 32). So the base 50% hit chance is off by approximately 50%. (and yes, a 1 is still a miss, but in the case of PA that extra point still applies because it becomes +2 damage for no cost at all). The barbarian crits on a 19 for X3. Against AC 26 the optimum is at PA -7/+14, but the damage output is increased for any PA up to -15/+30. His BAB is not +15, so any PA he selects will increase damage. Now assume DR5 or DR 10 and the numbers get even better. Now, I like to mix it up and I will throw stuff with an AC of 35 at the party. But this does not slow the game down. Instead, the barbarian simply stops using PA. simple. [/QUOTE]
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