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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 8876403" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Hey guys, I'd like some opinions on a specific use of this spell:</p><p></p><p>Mislead</p><p>5th level Cleric illusion spell, 1 Action cast (somatic component only). Range self.</p><p>Duration: hour (concentration.</p><p>Save: None</p><p></p><p>You become invisible at the same time that an illusory double of you <strong>appears where you are standing</strong>. The double lasts for the duration, but the invisibility ends if you attack or cast a spell.</p><p></p><p>You can use your action to:</p><p>move your illusory double up to twice your speed</p><p>make it gesture</p><p>speak</p><p>behave in whatever way you choose.</p><p></p><p>You can see through its eyes and hear through its ears as if you were located where it is. </p><p>On each of your turns as a bonus action, you can switch from using its senses to using your own, or back again. </p><p>While you are using its senses, you are blinded and deafened in regard to your own surroundings.</p><p></p><p>I broke out some of those details on their own lines in case anyone wants to quote a specific element of the spell easier.</p><p></p><p>So my question is about using this spell as a scout in a dungeon. I am not concerned about the invisibility for this purpose. </p><p></p><p><strong>First question I have is can this illusion move through solid objects?</strong></p><p></p><p>I believe the answer is yes, because (as bolded above) the illusion "appears where you are standing." It's obviously occupying your exact same space, as you go invisible yourself. That tells me it can move through solid objects. But I want the opinion of others on that.</p><p></p><p><strong>Second question is how far away from me can it go, and can it leave my line of sight?</strong></p><p></p><p>Nothing seems to be mentioned in the spell about a range or line of sight after casting, so I think it can go as far as you can move it during that one hour of concentration. But again I'd like others opinions on that.</p><p></p><p><strong>Third question is can I use my darkvision when looking through its eyes?</strong></p><p></p><p>I think I can as it's your eyes that are doing the seeing - it doesn't really exist. But again, open to differing thoughts on that.</p><p></p><p>I'm thinking this could be a very powerful scout. As a 5th level spell I am not sure that's particularly overpowered as there are other existing such scouts in the game which are lower level, like the Manifest Mind ability of a 6th level Order of Scribes Wizard, though that ability has a range of 300' (which is pretty far). Arcane Eye I believe does something similar. </p><p></p><p>If this can work as a scout, you could send it out, it can move through doors and walls, and you can use it to map the dungeon ahead of you. It would alert monsters that you're there of course. You could even use it to negotiate with a foe from a safe distance, since it can talk. </p><p></p><p>Anyone have experience with this spell or thoughts on using it as a scout or otherwise?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 8876403, member: 2525"] Hey guys, I'd like some opinions on a specific use of this spell: Mislead 5th level Cleric illusion spell, 1 Action cast (somatic component only). Range self. Duration: hour (concentration. Save: None You become invisible at the same time that an illusory double of you [B]appears where you are standing[/B]. The double lasts for the duration, but the invisibility ends if you attack or cast a spell. You can use your action to: move your illusory double up to twice your speed make it gesture speak behave in whatever way you choose. You can see through its eyes and hear through its ears as if you were located where it is. On each of your turns as a bonus action, you can switch from using its senses to using your own, or back again. While you are using its senses, you are blinded and deafened in regard to your own surroundings. I broke out some of those details on their own lines in case anyone wants to quote a specific element of the spell easier. So my question is about using this spell as a scout in a dungeon. I am not concerned about the invisibility for this purpose. [B]First question I have is can this illusion move through solid objects?[/B] I believe the answer is yes, because (as bolded above) the illusion "appears where you are standing." It's obviously occupying your exact same space, as you go invisible yourself. That tells me it can move through solid objects. But I want the opinion of others on that. [B]Second question is how far away from me can it go, and can it leave my line of sight?[/B] Nothing seems to be mentioned in the spell about a range or line of sight after casting, so I think it can go as far as you can move it during that one hour of concentration. But again I'd like others opinions on that. [B]Third question is can I use my darkvision when looking through its eyes?[/B] I think I can as it's your eyes that are doing the seeing - it doesn't really exist. But again, open to differing thoughts on that. I'm thinking this could be a very powerful scout. As a 5th level spell I am not sure that's particularly overpowered as there are other existing such scouts in the game which are lower level, like the Manifest Mind ability of a 6th level Order of Scribes Wizard, though that ability has a range of 300' (which is pretty far). Arcane Eye I believe does something similar. If this can work as a scout, you could send it out, it can move through doors and walls, and you can use it to map the dungeon ahead of you. It would alert monsters that you're there of course. You could even use it to negotiate with a foe from a safe distance, since it can talk. Anyone have experience with this spell or thoughts on using it as a scout or otherwise? [/QUOTE]
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