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<blockquote data-quote="Elderbrain" data-source="post: 6396842"><p>Hussar, I have some good news for you... there's NOT ONE WORD about the Blood War (or Demons and Devils fighting each other) in either the Demon or Devil entries in the new Monster Manual! The entries read a lot like the 1st edition ones (including the bit about controlling demons/devils by obtaining their amulets/talismans). Mariliths, for instance, are not described as Blood War generals, but just as being smart demons who sometimes lead demonic hordes (to do whatever.) Nalfeshnees act as judges of deceased mortal spirits in Planescape, determining what type demon they become. Not in this book. Now, the Yugoloth entry does contain two brief references to Ultroloths leading Blood War mercenaries (on the second page), but (oddly) never states what the Blood War IS or who is involved (other than Yugoloths, obviously.) Naturally WE all know what it is, but newbies will likely be confused. If they weren't going to explain it, they might as well have left it out. Other than than, zip. And the origin given for Yugoloths blatently contradicts Planescape canon; whereas in Planescape Yugoloths are said to be the creations of the mysterious Baernaloths, the MM says that a covey of Night Hags created them, possibly at the behest of Asmodeus, and that the hags controlled them until they lost the Books of Keeping which had the 'Loths true names written in them. Therefore, 'Loths are now free agents... unless someone finds one or more of the books. (A Planescape article written by Ed Bonney did suggest that Night Hags could promote Yugoloths to more powerful and unique forms, but didn't posit the hags as being their original creators. Still, it could have given the authors of the current MM the idea... and hey, the 'Loths are known liars, so who knows? Maybe this is the truth! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />)</p><p></p><p>Now, there IS other, non-Planescape lore in the book that may bug you (and, for that matter, me... see the Harpy entry!) But at least you have a clear path before you with Demons and Devils (and Angels, for that matter, authough they are all now Lawful Good for some reason rather than "Any Good"... go figure. Still serve all the gods of Good, though.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elderbrain, post: 6396842"] Hussar, I have some good news for you... there's NOT ONE WORD about the Blood War (or Demons and Devils fighting each other) in either the Demon or Devil entries in the new Monster Manual! The entries read a lot like the 1st edition ones (including the bit about controlling demons/devils by obtaining their amulets/talismans). Mariliths, for instance, are not described as Blood War generals, but just as being smart demons who sometimes lead demonic hordes (to do whatever.) Nalfeshnees act as judges of deceased mortal spirits in Planescape, determining what type demon they become. Not in this book. Now, the Yugoloth entry does contain two brief references to Ultroloths leading Blood War mercenaries (on the second page), but (oddly) never states what the Blood War IS or who is involved (other than Yugoloths, obviously.) Naturally WE all know what it is, but newbies will likely be confused. If they weren't going to explain it, they might as well have left it out. Other than than, zip. And the origin given for Yugoloths blatently contradicts Planescape canon; whereas in Planescape Yugoloths are said to be the creations of the mysterious Baernaloths, the MM says that a covey of Night Hags created them, possibly at the behest of Asmodeus, and that the hags controlled them until they lost the Books of Keeping which had the 'Loths true names written in them. Therefore, 'Loths are now free agents... unless someone finds one or more of the books. (A Planescape article written by Ed Bonney did suggest that Night Hags could promote Yugoloths to more powerful and unique forms, but didn't posit the hags as being their original creators. Still, it could have given the authors of the current MM the idea... and hey, the 'Loths are known liars, so who knows? Maybe this is the truth! :erm:) Now, there IS other, non-Planescape lore in the book that may bug you (and, for that matter, me... see the Harpy entry!) But at least you have a clear path before you with Demons and Devils (and Angels, for that matter, authough they are all now Lawful Good for some reason rather than "Any Good"... go figure. Still serve all the gods of Good, though.) [/QUOTE]
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