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<blockquote data-quote="BenK" data-source="post: 6416754" data-attributes="member: 49239"><p>Pemerton - your prose is brilliant! Such a knack for clarity. You teach at a university somewhere? I think you see that this discussion is pointless, but you seem to be enjoying yourself. </p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">So, Rawls in Sigil. Rawls sits down a bunch of Angels and Devils and so forth and explains to them that to act ethically, they must act according to rules which they all would consent to, if they did not know which member of the planar multiverse they were going to be - djinni, celestial, demon, whatever. All the critters agree, and draw up a code of rules for all the planes.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">Now, I agree that Rawls could make a good case that he has a truly objective standard against which to judge their code of rules, although it may not be strictly knowable: what would the group consensus actually be if no member knew what role would be theirs? (In fact, we can imagine a high level Wizard or Cleric might be able to fashion a spell to find out.)</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">So we have an objective standard for establish rules all the planars would agree on. We can imagine the Angels and Demons even agreeing on the rule set as they don't know what perspective will be theirs once the rules are in place.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">However, can he give the Demons any reason why, having agreed to the rules, they should follow them? It seems to me guys like Singer or Rawls can propose useful frameworks for public policy discussion, but they can't give compelling reasons for people to act accordingly.</span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BenK, post: 6416754, member: 49239"] Pemerton - your prose is brilliant! Such a knack for clarity. You teach at a university somewhere? I think you see that this discussion is pointless, but you seem to be enjoying yourself. [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] So, Rawls in Sigil. Rawls sits down a bunch of Angels and Devils and so forth and explains to them that to act ethically, they must act according to rules which they all would consent to, if they did not know which member of the planar multiverse they were going to be - djinni, celestial, demon, whatever. All the critters agree, and draw up a code of rules for all the planes. Now, I agree that Rawls could make a good case that he has a truly objective standard against which to judge their code of rules, although it may not be strictly knowable: what would the group consensus actually be if no member knew what role would be theirs? (In fact, we can imagine a high level Wizard or Cleric might be able to fashion a spell to find out.) So we have an objective standard for establish rules all the planars would agree on. We can imagine the Angels and Demons even agreeing on the rule set as they don't know what perspective will be theirs once the rules are in place. However, can he give the Demons any reason why, having agreed to the rules, they should follow them? It seems to me guys like Singer or Rawls can propose useful frameworks for public policy discussion, but they can't give compelling reasons for people to act accordingly. [/COLOR][/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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