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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6050408" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>The point is that these two are almost definitely mutually exclusive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You mean other than the fact that maybe about 15% of most D&D players worldwide probably lived in the NE? <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>One person in 8 in the US live in NY, PA, or NJ. It's the most densely populated part of the US with several other high population nearby states (Ohio, Virginia, Maryland). NY alone has as many people as Illinois and Indiana combined. People travel to this region for a lot of other reasons.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This limitation of there having to be a gaming connection will mostly likely prevent you from picking a location where the most people visit it.</p><p></p><p>What is your goal? Having a place where the most people can visit (which in turn can introduce more new people to the game), or having a place connected to the game?</p><p></p><p>As an example, Lake Geneva is an hour and a half out of Chicago. For hardcore D&D players (or even former players), sure, a three hour round trip is a worthwhile drive to get to the museum if they are in Chicago for some reason. But, not for non-hardcore gamers. For those people, a three hour round trip might not be worth the effort.</p><p></p><p>A better place to pick than Lake Geneva is on the western side of Chicago within 15 minutes or so of O'Hare Airport. You'd get a lot more people going through that area (and you would still be about an hour or so from Lake Geneva to get some weekend support by long time gamers and former employees from that area). Illinois is the fifth most populous state and has a lot of people going through it, especially near Chicago (which is also fairly close to Indiana and Michigan).</p><p></p><p>Indianapolis has very little going for it population-wise or tourist-wise.</p><p></p><p>Florida has it's own set of issues (not centrally located, one attraction amongst hundreds, hurricane area, no connections either).</p><p></p><p>Renton is probably the last place you should pick.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First, this is a worldwide figure, not a US one. If you don't place it near a tourist site or heavy population area, you will get very few people from outside the US. And, a tourist site could mean other things. A major amusement park for example.</p><p></p><p>Second, 20 million people have played D&D at some point in time in the last 38 years. At it's 2E peak, it was estimated worldwide at 8 million. 3E sold about 4 million copies. But, try to get a game locally these days and it's not always easy (even difficult or impossible), even in higher population areas. A lot of D&D has gone online precisely because the hobby is shrinking. Gaming stores have closed. I know of a lot of former D&D gamers who do not game anymore because of life, or who do not play D&D anymore because of other RPGs or other easier hobbies (like MMOs).</p><p></p><p>The game has shrunk quite a bit. Sure, people will visit if they are traveling nearby. But, very few of them will go out of their way to fly to Hicksville US to visit a gaming museum. It's the difference between limping along from year to year keeping the museum afloat, and having a stellar museum for decades to come.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6050408, member: 2011"] The point is that these two are almost definitely mutually exclusive. You mean other than the fact that maybe about 15% of most D&D players worldwide probably lived in the NE? ;) One person in 8 in the US live in NY, PA, or NJ. It's the most densely populated part of the US with several other high population nearby states (Ohio, Virginia, Maryland). NY alone has as many people as Illinois and Indiana combined. People travel to this region for a lot of other reasons. This limitation of there having to be a gaming connection will mostly likely prevent you from picking a location where the most people visit it. What is your goal? Having a place where the most people can visit (which in turn can introduce more new people to the game), or having a place connected to the game? As an example, Lake Geneva is an hour and a half out of Chicago. For hardcore D&D players (or even former players), sure, a three hour round trip is a worthwhile drive to get to the museum if they are in Chicago for some reason. But, not for non-hardcore gamers. For those people, a three hour round trip might not be worth the effort. A better place to pick than Lake Geneva is on the western side of Chicago within 15 minutes or so of O'Hare Airport. You'd get a lot more people going through that area (and you would still be about an hour or so from Lake Geneva to get some weekend support by long time gamers and former employees from that area). Illinois is the fifth most populous state and has a lot of people going through it, especially near Chicago (which is also fairly close to Indiana and Michigan). Indianapolis has very little going for it population-wise or tourist-wise. Florida has it's own set of issues (not centrally located, one attraction amongst hundreds, hurricane area, no connections either). Renton is probably the last place you should pick. First, this is a worldwide figure, not a US one. If you don't place it near a tourist site or heavy population area, you will get very few people from outside the US. And, a tourist site could mean other things. A major amusement park for example. Second, 20 million people have played D&D at some point in time in the last 38 years. At it's 2E peak, it was estimated worldwide at 8 million. 3E sold about 4 million copies. But, try to get a game locally these days and it's not always easy (even difficult or impossible), even in higher population areas. A lot of D&D has gone online precisely because the hobby is shrinking. Gaming stores have closed. I know of a lot of former D&D gamers who do not game anymore because of life, or who do not play D&D anymore because of other RPGs or other easier hobbies (like MMOs). The game has shrunk quite a bit. Sure, people will visit if they are traveling nearby. But, very few of them will go out of their way to fly to Hicksville US to visit a gaming museum. It's the difference between limping along from year to year keeping the museum afloat, and having a stellar museum for decades to come. [/QUOTE]
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