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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6050456" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Huh? If one is going that way, sure. I've been there exactly twice in my life, both of them as moving trips as I passed through the area with a Penski truck.</p><p></p><p>But to do a 9 hour round trip from St. Louis, a 6 hour round trip from Columbus, a 7 hour round trip from Chicago, a 10 hour round trip from Detroit, a 4 hour round trip from Louisville, or a 10 hour round trip from Nashville is a bit of a haul.</p><p></p><p>With today's gas prices, a 6 to 10 hour round trip (not including hotels, food, etc.) is about $50 to $85, let alone a ton of time in a car. Even more costly by air. I don't see many people doing this just to go see the Museum. I especially don't see many international people doing this.</p><p></p><p>The western side of Chicago? That's a much better place because the birthplace is about an hour away. It's no big deal to state that Lake Geneva is 60 or so miles north.</p><p></p><p>Do people really care about GenCon that much? Even if every single person who went to GenCon visited the museum each year, you're talking less than 40,000 people from that event the first year. I would suspect that many people who have seen the museum the first year wouldn't visit every year in following years. People who have seen it a few times would probably eventually pass. People at GenCon often don't have enough time to do everything at the convention center that they want to do, let alone driving some distance away to go to another location. So, you might be talking 5,000 to 10,000 people from GenCon per year a few years into the project. Maybe.</p><p></p><p>Yeah, that's fair numbers. Course, if GenCon goes out of business (like it went into Chapter 11 a few years back) or moves location, then there goes most of the business with little backup.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, probably because Seattle is right next door. But Seattle only has 600,000 people. Very few people in the US would see the museum if it were in WA.</p><p></p><p>Chicago has 2,700,000 people, the third largest city in the US. Just from local population, you would have a fairly consistent business by placing it on the western side of Chicago.</p><p></p><p>New York City has 8,200,000 people (hence my push for NY/NJ, not because I now live there). A huge draw. Of all of the locations in the US, more people worldwide visit NYC than almost any other place in the US. No midwest connection to the game, but a thriving business that millions of people the world over would be able to visit at some point.</p><p></p><p>Indianapolis? 825,000 people. Even adding in the type of traffic that you could get there from the other cities you mentioned, Chicago would still generate more traffic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My vote (and I realize that I don't have one), somewhere outside of Chicago #1 (due to proximity to Lake Geneva), or somewhere outside of NYC #2.</p><p></p><p>There is a reason that GenCon is not in Lake Geneva. It is centrally located in the US in order to allow more people to drive there, but whereas GenCon is a yearly draw, the Museum will not be a "daily draw". The Museum will need foot traffic based on population (or tourist attraction).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6050456, member: 2011"] Huh? If one is going that way, sure. I've been there exactly twice in my life, both of them as moving trips as I passed through the area with a Penski truck. But to do a 9 hour round trip from St. Louis, a 6 hour round trip from Columbus, a 7 hour round trip from Chicago, a 10 hour round trip from Detroit, a 4 hour round trip from Louisville, or a 10 hour round trip from Nashville is a bit of a haul. With today's gas prices, a 6 to 10 hour round trip (not including hotels, food, etc.) is about $50 to $85, let alone a ton of time in a car. Even more costly by air. I don't see many people doing this just to go see the Museum. I especially don't see many international people doing this. The western side of Chicago? That's a much better place because the birthplace is about an hour away. It's no big deal to state that Lake Geneva is 60 or so miles north. Do people really care about GenCon that much? Even if every single person who went to GenCon visited the museum each year, you're talking less than 40,000 people from that event the first year. I would suspect that many people who have seen the museum the first year wouldn't visit every year in following years. People who have seen it a few times would probably eventually pass. People at GenCon often don't have enough time to do everything at the convention center that they want to do, let alone driving some distance away to go to another location. So, you might be talking 5,000 to 10,000 people from GenCon per year a few years into the project. Maybe. Yeah, that's fair numbers. Course, if GenCon goes out of business (like it went into Chapter 11 a few years back) or moves location, then there goes most of the business with little backup. Yes, probably because Seattle is right next door. But Seattle only has 600,000 people. Very few people in the US would see the museum if it were in WA. Chicago has 2,700,000 people, the third largest city in the US. Just from local population, you would have a fairly consistent business by placing it on the western side of Chicago. New York City has 8,200,000 people (hence my push for NY/NJ, not because I now live there). A huge draw. Of all of the locations in the US, more people worldwide visit NYC than almost any other place in the US. No midwest connection to the game, but a thriving business that millions of people the world over would be able to visit at some point. Indianapolis? 825,000 people. Even adding in the type of traffic that you could get there from the other cities you mentioned, Chicago would still generate more traffic. My vote (and I realize that I don't have one), somewhere outside of Chicago #1 (due to proximity to Lake Geneva), or somewhere outside of NYC #2. There is a reason that GenCon is not in Lake Geneva. It is centrally located in the US in order to allow more people to drive there, but whereas GenCon is a yearly draw, the Museum will not be a "daily draw". The Museum will need foot traffic based on population (or tourist attraction). [/QUOTE]
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