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The Museum of Dungeons & Dragons Is A Go! Funding Begins
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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6050500" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Indianapolis or Seattle are likely the only locations I'd visit. Seattle as it's closer to me (which likely makes me a minority of potential visitors) and Indy as I plan on returning to GenCon at <em>least</em> once more.</p><p></p><p>Lake Geneva is a nice idea but is too small to sustain a sizeable museum by itself. There's a hair over 7000 people there. It's tiny.</p><p>If you're already travelling cross country then, yes, it's a small detour to hit. But unless you live in the 2-hour-drive circle around Lake Geneva it's too far to hit except on a dedicated trip. There's no other reason to visit what is really a very, very small town. And as gas prices increase, I think the days of the summer long trip across America, hitting the various sights, will dwindle and die. The out-of-the-way locations are going to become harder and harder to support.</p><p>That leaves dedicated visits, people coming <em>just</em> for the museum, which will be fewer in an isolated area. </p><p>The one possible advantage is the likely lower rents, which might help keep the museum going compared to areas that receive more visits yet have far higher rent.</p><p></p><p>Indy makes the most sense. It's central so it's not that much farther out of the way than Lake Geneva from several other major cities. Still doable for a lengthy day trip or overnight weekend trip during most of the year. And once a year there'd be the big boom of GenCon that can sustain the museum during the slower dry months.</p><p>You can have shuttled trips from GenCon and guided tours as Con events. As there'll be ex-TSR and current and former WotC employees present you can have guest tour hosts as special events. Imagine having Jeff Grubb or Tracky Hickman talk you through some of the displays. That'd be a fun auction item each year.</p><p></p><p>Yes, there are larger cities that might boast higher populations for potential visitors, but these are largely arbitrary choices. Judging from the "<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/news/331903-where-you-hotbeds-tabletop-gaming.html" target="_blank">where are you</a>" chart, the best places would be New York, London, Toronto, and Chicago. Not exactly tied to gaming in any meaningful way other than population. And also not exactly lacking in other sights to see during a visit. </p><p>Let's face it, if I'm in New York or Chicago for the weekend, there's going to be a very long list of potential activities fighting for attention and a D&D Museum - as big of a geek as I am - might struggle to make the list.</p><p></p><p>As for Florida... it suffers the same problems as above, and then some. If you do go to Orlando you spend a 5-days out of the week at Disney World and then a couple days squeezing everything else in. The museum would be competing against Universal Studios, Sea World, Medieval Times, and more.</p><p>Plus as a western Canadian, California is my destination of choice, as flying to Orlando takes a full day so you blow two days of holiday just travelling. It's so far out of the way that it's going to be time and cost prohibitive for half the continent.</p><p></p><p>* * *</p><p></p><p>Onto the fund raiser itself (a KickStarter by any other name...).</p><p>The rewards are really disappointing. I can see why it's only raised $370.</p><p></p><p>What do I get for my money? What tangible reward do I earn? </p><p>None under <u>$75</u>, where I get a book for my efforts. Okay, and a thank you letter. This feels like the "reward" for attending a wedding... </p><p></p><p>The name on a wall and plaque are <em>nice</em>, as are the free admission, but this means nothing to me if I don't know where the museum is and it looks like there's a 50/50 chance (higher from the informal poll conducted here) that it might end up in a location I'll never visit. </p><p>Yes I can drop into the museum for free and see my name on a wall with a thousand others, but I'll need to spend $400 in airfare, rent a car, and get a hotel for a couple days to see it. </p><p></p><p>Or I can spend $120 and get a $20 canvas tote bag. Wow... Won't the people at the local Safeway be impressed by my limited edition D&D museum tote bag? Or the $160 T-shirt. All stuff I could conceivably get at the museum gift store for far less. </p><p>Then there are the passes to conventions and GenCon. Neat... but not exactly unique as I can get those for myself pretty darn easily. </p><p>The prints are a neat idea. But also pretty darn pricey at the $200 mark. Especially since you could by them directly from the artist at a quarter of the price. </p><p></p><p>Okay, I'm being a cynical bastard. I know the point of the fundraiser is essentially a charitable drive and investment where people should pay for no reason other than to pay and support a project. But the lack of unique collectibles or show-piece items makes it harder to feel the urge to invest. I can't show my friends my name on the wall on the D&D museum. I can't display it in my gaming room. </p><p>A book detailing the making of the museum is okay, but feels a little like something I'd buy as a mid-price souvenir at the museum.</p><p></p><p>The gaming community is large and creative, and there's still time for some attention-garbbing stretch goals. Some neat perks donated by interested parties.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6050500, member: 37579"] Indianapolis or Seattle are likely the only locations I'd visit. Seattle as it's closer to me (which likely makes me a minority of potential visitors) and Indy as I plan on returning to GenCon at [I]least[/I] once more. Lake Geneva is a nice idea but is too small to sustain a sizeable museum by itself. There's a hair over 7000 people there. It's tiny. If you're already travelling cross country then, yes, it's a small detour to hit. But unless you live in the 2-hour-drive circle around Lake Geneva it's too far to hit except on a dedicated trip. There's no other reason to visit what is really a very, very small town. And as gas prices increase, I think the days of the summer long trip across America, hitting the various sights, will dwindle and die. The out-of-the-way locations are going to become harder and harder to support. That leaves dedicated visits, people coming [I]just[/I] for the museum, which will be fewer in an isolated area. The one possible advantage is the likely lower rents, which might help keep the museum going compared to areas that receive more visits yet have far higher rent. Indy makes the most sense. It's central so it's not that much farther out of the way than Lake Geneva from several other major cities. Still doable for a lengthy day trip or overnight weekend trip during most of the year. And once a year there'd be the big boom of GenCon that can sustain the museum during the slower dry months. You can have shuttled trips from GenCon and guided tours as Con events. As there'll be ex-TSR and current and former WotC employees present you can have guest tour hosts as special events. Imagine having Jeff Grubb or Tracky Hickman talk you through some of the displays. That'd be a fun auction item each year. Yes, there are larger cities that might boast higher populations for potential visitors, but these are largely arbitrary choices. Judging from the "[URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/news/331903-where-you-hotbeds-tabletop-gaming.html"]where are you[/URL]" chart, the best places would be New York, London, Toronto, and Chicago. Not exactly tied to gaming in any meaningful way other than population. And also not exactly lacking in other sights to see during a visit. Let's face it, if I'm in New York or Chicago for the weekend, there's going to be a very long list of potential activities fighting for attention and a D&D Museum - as big of a geek as I am - might struggle to make the list. As for Florida... it suffers the same problems as above, and then some. If you do go to Orlando you spend a 5-days out of the week at Disney World and then a couple days squeezing everything else in. The museum would be competing against Universal Studios, Sea World, Medieval Times, and more. Plus as a western Canadian, California is my destination of choice, as flying to Orlando takes a full day so you blow two days of holiday just travelling. It's so far out of the way that it's going to be time and cost prohibitive for half the continent. * * * Onto the fund raiser itself (a KickStarter by any other name...). The rewards are really disappointing. I can see why it's only raised $370. What do I get for my money? What tangible reward do I earn? None under [U]$75[/U], where I get a book for my efforts. Okay, and a thank you letter. This feels like the "reward" for attending a wedding... The name on a wall and plaque are [I]nice[/I], as are the free admission, but this means nothing to me if I don't know where the museum is and it looks like there's a 50/50 chance (higher from the informal poll conducted here) that it might end up in a location I'll never visit. Yes I can drop into the museum for free and see my name on a wall with a thousand others, but I'll need to spend $400 in airfare, rent a car, and get a hotel for a couple days to see it. Or I can spend $120 and get a $20 canvas tote bag. Wow... Won't the people at the local Safeway be impressed by my limited edition D&D museum tote bag? Or the $160 T-shirt. All stuff I could conceivably get at the museum gift store for far less. Then there are the passes to conventions and GenCon. Neat... but not exactly unique as I can get those for myself pretty darn easily. The prints are a neat idea. But also pretty darn pricey at the $200 mark. Especially since you could by them directly from the artist at a quarter of the price. Okay, I'm being a cynical bastard. I know the point of the fundraiser is essentially a charitable drive and investment where people should pay for no reason other than to pay and support a project. But the lack of unique collectibles or show-piece items makes it harder to feel the urge to invest. I can't show my friends my name on the wall on the D&D museum. I can't display it in my gaming room. A book detailing the making of the museum is okay, but feels a little like something I'd buy as a mid-price souvenir at the museum. The gaming community is large and creative, and there's still time for some attention-garbbing stretch goals. Some neat perks donated by interested parties. [/QUOTE]
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