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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8709167" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>Cool.</p><p></p><p>We disagree about that, then. A storyteller (in the most common, general use of the word) tells a story to a (largely) passive audience. Story time at a library, for example. The person reads a story to the kids. The kids might interact with the storyteller, but the story generally doesn't change based on the kids' interactions with the storyteller. Or stand-up comedians. Their stories and jokes generally don't involve audience participation. Except for hecklers and crowd work. Stand-ups have memorized large portions of their act and being interrupted will knock them out of their flow. So they tend to respond rather harshly to hecklers. They almost constantly work and re-work their material so there's always little changes over time, but they tend to not want the audience to be involved other than laughing...or unless specifically called on to respond. And of course novelists, short-story writers, poets, playwrights, screenwriters, etc are also storytellers in that sense.</p><p></p><p>If you mean storyteller in the more narrow and limited sense of "adds interesting description to things" or "makes a scene pop in an RPG" or "makes an NPC come to life," then yes, I agree. It's great to have a referee who does that. But that's not generally what the word means. </p><p></p><p>We generally expect the referee to be a storyteller in that second, more limited sense. I personally want nothing to do with a referee who's a storyteller in the more common, general sense. That kind of referee can write a novel and if I'm interested I'll read it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8709167, member: 86653"] Cool. We disagree about that, then. A storyteller (in the most common, general use of the word) tells a story to a (largely) passive audience. Story time at a library, for example. The person reads a story to the kids. The kids might interact with the storyteller, but the story generally doesn't change based on the kids' interactions with the storyteller. Or stand-up comedians. Their stories and jokes generally don't involve audience participation. Except for hecklers and crowd work. Stand-ups have memorized large portions of their act and being interrupted will knock them out of their flow. So they tend to respond rather harshly to hecklers. They almost constantly work and re-work their material so there's always little changes over time, but they tend to not want the audience to be involved other than laughing...or unless specifically called on to respond. And of course novelists, short-story writers, poets, playwrights, screenwriters, etc are also storytellers in that sense. If you mean storyteller in the more narrow and limited sense of "adds interesting description to things" or "makes a scene pop in an RPG" or "makes an NPC come to life," then yes, I agree. It's great to have a referee who does that. But that's not generally what the word means. We generally expect the referee to be a storyteller in that second, more limited sense. I personally want nothing to do with a referee who's a storyteller in the more common, general sense. That kind of referee can write a novel and if I'm interested I'll read it. [/QUOTE]
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