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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 6705177" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>I enjoyed the episode but this was something that I didn't really like. It isn't that death is meaningless, it is that 1) they've done "oh no, Doctor's gonna die" as a hook far too many times for it to be effective, and 2) they didn't even attempt an explanation for why people were not dead. With Missy, I think she never died as the beam was a totally different color when it struck her, so that wasn't such a big deal to me. Davros I was really scratching my head over (though it is possible I may be stupidly overlooking some significant alteration to the timeline from a prior episode). I will say, the episode itself struck me as very strong. I think it outweighed these flaws. But it was such a strong episode, I kind of wanted all the pieces to fit together tightly and some things kind of stuck out (for example why did they need clara and missy to lead them to the doctor if they already had a Dalek planted at the fair?). </p><p></p><p>On the whole Missy and Clara dying taking away from death. Because it is obviously the central plot point that he needs to go back in time to undo them, and it was shown moments after the deaths, I think it is okay. I am more bothered when they do stuff like bring Rory back month after he's been wiped from existence or hand wave things years down the road. If it is built into the episode itself, that's fine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 6705177, member: 85555"] I enjoyed the episode but this was something that I didn't really like. It isn't that death is meaningless, it is that 1) they've done "oh no, Doctor's gonna die" as a hook far too many times for it to be effective, and 2) they didn't even attempt an explanation for why people were not dead. With Missy, I think she never died as the beam was a totally different color when it struck her, so that wasn't such a big deal to me. Davros I was really scratching my head over (though it is possible I may be stupidly overlooking some significant alteration to the timeline from a prior episode). I will say, the episode itself struck me as very strong. I think it outweighed these flaws. But it was such a strong episode, I kind of wanted all the pieces to fit together tightly and some things kind of stuck out (for example why did they need clara and missy to lead them to the doctor if they already had a Dalek planted at the fair?). On the whole Missy and Clara dying taking away from death. Because it is obviously the central plot point that he needs to go back in time to undo them, and it was shown moments after the deaths, I think it is okay. I am more bothered when they do stuff like bring Rory back month after he's been wiped from existence or hand wave things years down the road. If it is built into the episode itself, that's fine. [/QUOTE]
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