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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5860244" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Exactly. There are MANY things about B/X that are clunky and non-intuitive. 4e's core engine cleans ALL of that up, and quite nicely. You can play a stripped-down game that is in all but some 'nostalgia for rules details of yore' way accomplishing what B/X did in terms of simplicity, yet is even simpler in practice and then if you want to build more complex stuff on top for people that want it, you've got it.</p><p></p><p>I just don't see a reason to go back to things like decending AC that has magical pluses from armor being subtracted from it and weirdness like that. The horribly arbitrary and unclear list of saving throw categories, etc. If it is pure nostalgia that people want, there's nothing like the real thing. For a NEW game that will be released in the 21st Century, not really seeing it.</p><p></p><p>In other words B/X D&D has no monopoly on simplicity, and has many non-simple things in it that existed purely because it was closely based on OD&D, not because they made sense. We're past that now and don't need to go back to get simplicity. Nor do we need to have things like "must have a cleric" or casters that end up far outstripping any other character, nor arbitrary class/race restrictions, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5860244, member: 82106"] Exactly. There are MANY things about B/X that are clunky and non-intuitive. 4e's core engine cleans ALL of that up, and quite nicely. You can play a stripped-down game that is in all but some 'nostalgia for rules details of yore' way accomplishing what B/X did in terms of simplicity, yet is even simpler in practice and then if you want to build more complex stuff on top for people that want it, you've got it. I just don't see a reason to go back to things like decending AC that has magical pluses from armor being subtracted from it and weirdness like that. The horribly arbitrary and unclear list of saving throw categories, etc. If it is pure nostalgia that people want, there's nothing like the real thing. For a NEW game that will be released in the 21st Century, not really seeing it. In other words B/X D&D has no monopoly on simplicity, and has many non-simple things in it that existed purely because it was closely based on OD&D, not because they made sense. We're past that now and don't need to go back to get simplicity. Nor do we need to have things like "must have a cleric" or casters that end up far outstripping any other character, nor arbitrary class/race restrictions, etc. [/QUOTE]
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