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<blockquote data-quote="Radaceus" data-source="post: 7693149" data-attributes="member: 6796086"><p>Regarding wizards in Tolkiens Lore:</p><p>Gandalf most certainly was a wizard in the D&D sense; his race the Maiar, sent by the Valar to foster and guide middle earth, also known as the Istari, arguably could be seen as many aspects of spellcasters, Saruman a sorceror, Radagast most definately a druid. We have no idea the nature of the two Blue 'wizards' who went off into the east and are mentioned only briefly in passing. IN essence, the term wizard is used only in its original sense...a spell caster (note Gygax used the term Magic-user).</p><p>Eslewise, we have no other examples of wizards per se, save for the Eldar elves themselves (Elrond, Galadriel, Celebrimbor, Melian, etc) who would be more akin to demi-gods, or Angels if you wish to make that parallel. There is also Beorn, a shapechanger, but arguably a lycanthrope and not a spellcaster.</p><p></p><p>So, in the scope of L. Patt's rules, the battles would be more akin to war-gaming re-enactment's and the wizard mentioned would be one of the Istari, a unique, thus the reason he has made them so hard to kill.</p><p></p><p>on an aside,</p><p>I've never been able to get into Middle Earth RP for the very matter of the idea of a wizard in <em>every</em> hamlet just does my head in and ruins my purist sense of the Tolkien's lore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Radaceus, post: 7693149, member: 6796086"] Regarding wizards in Tolkiens Lore: Gandalf most certainly was a wizard in the D&D sense; his race the Maiar, sent by the Valar to foster and guide middle earth, also known as the Istari, arguably could be seen as many aspects of spellcasters, Saruman a sorceror, Radagast most definately a druid. We have no idea the nature of the two Blue 'wizards' who went off into the east and are mentioned only briefly in passing. IN essence, the term wizard is used only in its original sense...a spell caster (note Gygax used the term Magic-user). Eslewise, we have no other examples of wizards per se, save for the Eldar elves themselves (Elrond, Galadriel, Celebrimbor, Melian, etc) who would be more akin to demi-gods, or Angels if you wish to make that parallel. There is also Beorn, a shapechanger, but arguably a lycanthrope and not a spellcaster. So, in the scope of L. Patt's rules, the battles would be more akin to war-gaming re-enactment's and the wizard mentioned would be one of the Istari, a unique, thus the reason he has made them so hard to kill. on an aside, I've never been able to get into Middle Earth RP for the very matter of the idea of a wizard in [I]every[/I] hamlet just does my head in and ruins my purist sense of the Tolkien's lore. [/QUOTE]
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