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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7551747" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>No, not everything about criticizing falls apart. Criticism about "it doesn't work like that" falls apart when you put a highly fictional universe against ours. Because, well, that highly fictional universe... doesn't work like ours!</p><p></p><p>Criticism hinging instead on things like internal consistency (as opposed to consistency with our real world), or accessibility, or emotional plausibility of human characters, use of theme, and such - those all still work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They work, because the show isn't a spy thriller. Trek, and this show by extension, is at its core <em>a morality play</em>. It isn't about technical details or technical correctness - it is about morals, ethics, choices and why we make them. If we accept that, then we can allow for simplification on the technical details, to allow us to get to the real meat of the play in 40 minutes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They said on screen they were planning to get data out of the shuttle Mercer was flying. The acting captain isn't relevant.</p><p></p><p>For sake of the morality play - how about we just take it that there is multi-factor authentication, and the codes are only the last element the Krill don't have? No, they don't show that on screen, but they're also merely technical details that don't involve Captain Mercer. We don't waste time on them, and we get to pressuring Mercer, which is the important bit in terms of drama.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We dont' do that, because this is an episodic morality play show, not a strongly-arced techno-thriller show. Get with the genre, man! Yes, a show will disappoint you, if you criticize on the basis of not being something it never claimed to be!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7551747, member: 177"] No, not everything about criticizing falls apart. Criticism about "it doesn't work like that" falls apart when you put a highly fictional universe against ours. Because, well, that highly fictional universe... doesn't work like ours! Criticism hinging instead on things like internal consistency (as opposed to consistency with our real world), or accessibility, or emotional plausibility of human characters, use of theme, and such - those all still work. They work, because the show isn't a spy thriller. Trek, and this show by extension, is at its core [i]a morality play[/i]. It isn't about technical details or technical correctness - it is about morals, ethics, choices and why we make them. If we accept that, then we can allow for simplification on the technical details, to allow us to get to the real meat of the play in 40 minutes. They said on screen they were planning to get data out of the shuttle Mercer was flying. The acting captain isn't relevant. For sake of the morality play - how about we just take it that there is multi-factor authentication, and the codes are only the last element the Krill don't have? No, they don't show that on screen, but they're also merely technical details that don't involve Captain Mercer. We don't waste time on them, and we get to pressuring Mercer, which is the important bit in terms of drama. We dont' do that, because this is an episodic morality play show, not a strongly-arced techno-thriller show. Get with the genre, man! Yes, a show will disappoint you, if you criticize on the basis of not being something it never claimed to be! [/QUOTE]
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