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<blockquote data-quote="Kynn" data-source="post: 5809118" data-attributes="member: 36754"><p><strong>Note: updated below</strong></p><p></p><p>In the DDXP NDA-limited play reports, there was <a href="http://critical-hits.com/2012/02/02/ddxp-2012-recap-running-the-new-dd-and-playing-games/" target="_blank">one scenario that stood out for attention</a>:</p><p></p><p>Turns out that was all <a href="http://critical-hits.com/2012/02/02/ddxp-2012-recap-running-the-new-dd-and-playing-games/#comment-88203" target="_blank">just something one DM thought would be a great idea</a> and not at all part of the 5e system they were playtesting:</p><p></p><p></p><p>This makes a lot of the "system reports" we're seeing seem rather questionable, if that much detail is left up to the individual DMs at the 5e playtest tables. We may not actually be seeing any real rules at all, but just whatever a non-WotC DM like Dave Chalker sounded good at the time.</p><p></p><p>Like, for example, in one description of play, we learn that if it's a DC 13 to bust down a door, and you have a 15 Strength, the door opens without a rule. But is this an actual rule from 5e, or is it just that the DM at that particular was tired of asking for die rolls, and said "well, it's normally a DC 13, what's your Strength? eh, seems high enough, don't bother."</p><p></p><p>It makes it harder for those of us who are trying to discern what the 5e rules are -- like blind men feeling an elephant -- if we're not even actually dealing with 5e rules in what we're reading.</p><p></p><p>I think WotC made a bad choice in how they're handling the NDA and playtest issue. It seems they'd do better with either a more open playtest with open discussion, or a more closed NDA that prohibits random bloggers from dribbling out pieces that might color the expectations for the game.</p><p></p><p>The way they're doing it now just feels like a PR nightmare -- I've seen threads go on for dozens on pages based on the idea that the "paladin vs. stirge" scenario represented the 5e rules, when it doesn't seem to represent anything other than one particular DM's whim of the moment.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: LemonChiffon"><strong>UPDATE:</strong> I want to add an apology to Dave Chalker for the tone of this post, which might be interpreted as an attack on him. It's not meant as such -- I don't fault for anything he did at his game table or wrote at his blog. I have different opinions from many on the strategy that WotC is using to release information, but my phrase "PR nightmare" -- which I should have stated in a less inflammatory manner, such as "PR gaffe" -- is <em>not</em> meant as a description of anything Dave himself did or is responsible for.</span></p><p><span style="color: LemonChiffon"></span></p><p><span style="color: LemonChiffon">I'm sorry, Dave.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kynn, post: 5809118, member: 36754"] [B]Note: updated below[/B] In the DDXP NDA-limited play reports, there was [URL="http://critical-hits.com/2012/02/02/ddxp-2012-recap-running-the-new-dd-and-playing-games/"]one scenario that stood out for attention[/URL]: Turns out that was all [URL="http://critical-hits.com/2012/02/02/ddxp-2012-recap-running-the-new-dd-and-playing-games/#comment-88203"]just something one DM thought would be a great idea[/URL] and not at all part of the 5e system they were playtesting: This makes a lot of the "system reports" we're seeing seem rather questionable, if that much detail is left up to the individual DMs at the 5e playtest tables. We may not actually be seeing any real rules at all, but just whatever a non-WotC DM like Dave Chalker sounded good at the time. Like, for example, in one description of play, we learn that if it's a DC 13 to bust down a door, and you have a 15 Strength, the door opens without a rule. But is this an actual rule from 5e, or is it just that the DM at that particular was tired of asking for die rolls, and said "well, it's normally a DC 13, what's your Strength? eh, seems high enough, don't bother." It makes it harder for those of us who are trying to discern what the 5e rules are -- like blind men feeling an elephant -- if we're not even actually dealing with 5e rules in what we're reading. I think WotC made a bad choice in how they're handling the NDA and playtest issue. It seems they'd do better with either a more open playtest with open discussion, or a more closed NDA that prohibits random bloggers from dribbling out pieces that might color the expectations for the game. The way they're doing it now just feels like a PR nightmare -- I've seen threads go on for dozens on pages based on the idea that the "paladin vs. stirge" scenario represented the 5e rules, when it doesn't seem to represent anything other than one particular DM's whim of the moment. [COLOR="LemonChiffon"][B]UPDATE:[/B] I want to add an apology to Dave Chalker for the tone of this post, which might be interpreted as an attack on him. It's not meant as such -- I don't fault for anything he did at his game table or wrote at his blog. I have different opinions from many on the strategy that WotC is using to release information, but my phrase "PR nightmare" -- which I should have stated in a less inflammatory manner, such as "PR gaffe" -- is [I]not[/I] meant as a description of anything Dave himself did or is responsible for. I'm sorry, Dave.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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