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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5921111" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Yeah, I don't think the "playing online" thing is in the ACTUAL agreement...unless you count some very specifically weird interpretation of what constitutes making a copy (technically, we're all supposed to play this on the computers we originally downloaded the files to without moving the files around, and typing any information from those files constitutes making a copy), but it's something they could probably pursue if they bothered to.</p><p></p><p>Would they bother to? Yeah, like I said above, it's unlikely that WotC's fun police will come to your house. This is more functionally probably to down more public displays of playtest information. Though since there's no specific verbiage for what happens if you violate the agreement AFAICT, they'd probably be left trying to sue you for breach of contract or something. Which wouldn't be worth it unless you tried to get away with some serious stuff.</p><p></p><p>For me, it's just important that people know what they are really agreeing to. And that WotC knows what they are actually asking us to agree to. Non-negotiated contracts like this irritate me as a guy who tries to take this stuff seriously and follow the law. If you're going to make me sign an agreement, you shouldn't have an expectation that I will violate it -- the agreement should be reasonable enough that I don't HAVE to violate it to do what I need to do. It annoys me that your average D&D player nowadays has to be a thoroughly versed contract lawyer just to understand what they're doing when they just want to provide feedback.</p><p></p><p>It contrasts very negatively with Paizo's Pathfinder open playtest period, which was much more...well...<em>open</em>. And shows that the biggest name in fantasy gaming need not do what WotC chose to do.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, that's a bit of a rant about a specific bugaboo for me personally. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> I invite anyone signing up for the playtest to send WotC all of their feedback e-mails with <a href="http://smallprint.netzoo.net/reag/" target="_blank">this</a> at the bottom. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>And now:</p><p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://i.qkme.me/3683an.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5921111, member: 2067"] Yeah, I don't think the "playing online" thing is in the ACTUAL agreement...unless you count some very specifically weird interpretation of what constitutes making a copy (technically, we're all supposed to play this on the computers we originally downloaded the files to without moving the files around, and typing any information from those files constitutes making a copy), but it's something they could probably pursue if they bothered to. Would they bother to? Yeah, like I said above, it's unlikely that WotC's fun police will come to your house. This is more functionally probably to down more public displays of playtest information. Though since there's no specific verbiage for what happens if you violate the agreement AFAICT, they'd probably be left trying to sue you for breach of contract or something. Which wouldn't be worth it unless you tried to get away with some serious stuff. For me, it's just important that people know what they are really agreeing to. And that WotC knows what they are actually asking us to agree to. Non-negotiated contracts like this irritate me as a guy who tries to take this stuff seriously and follow the law. If you're going to make me sign an agreement, you shouldn't have an expectation that I will violate it -- the agreement should be reasonable enough that I don't HAVE to violate it to do what I need to do. It annoys me that your average D&D player nowadays has to be a thoroughly versed contract lawyer just to understand what they're doing when they just want to provide feedback. It contrasts very negatively with Paizo's Pathfinder open playtest period, which was much more...well...[I]open[/I]. And shows that the biggest name in fantasy gaming need not do what WotC chose to do. Anyway, that's a bit of a rant about a specific bugaboo for me personally. ;) I invite anyone signing up for the playtest to send WotC all of their feedback e-mails with [URL="http://smallprint.netzoo.net/reag/"]this[/URL] at the bottom. ;) And now: [CENTER][IMG]http://i.qkme.me/3683an.jpg[/IMG][/CENTER] [/QUOTE]
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