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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7532088" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>I’m always surprised by how widespread some of <em>The Last Jedi</em> talking points are despite most being silly. </p><p></p><p><strong>How did Rey know how to fly the Falcon? </strong></p><p>Same correspondence course Luke took to learn how to fly an X-Wing I imagine.</p><p></p><p><strong>How could she beat Ren without training? </strong></p><p>We saw her kick two guys’ asses on Jakku. Which was more training that farmboy Luke got, who spent an hour training with Ben and a long weekend with Yoda lifting rocks. Also, Ren took a boltcaster shot to the side, and we know those have enough force to knock a stormtrooper flying. </p><p></p><p><strong>Why did it drop Rey’s parentage storyline? </strong></p><p>My response is “what storyline?” Her parents aren’t even mentioned in TFA. All we know is she was abandoned and the people who did were not coming back. The “Rey’s parents” question is pure fan speculation that exists solely because <em>The Empire Strikes Back</em> had a parentage twist.</p><p>Why does the new film have to mimic the surprising twist of a different trilogy? Isn’t that the laziest possible thing they could have done?</p><p></p><p><strong>Why did they drop the Snoke storyline? </strong></p><p>Because he was a lame Emperor ripoff. We knew two things about Snoke: his title and proper name. Which was MORE details than the Emperor received in the original trilogy. The villain we care about is Ren. Snoke was redundant to the plot, and time spent fleshing him out would be better served with ANY of the other characters.</p><p></p><p><strong>Canto Bight was a pointless. </strong></p><p>Hey, you know what else was pointless? The whole Kanjiklub bit, and the following Rathtar chase. </p><p>And Starkiller base. Finn would have gone after Rey anyway, the Resistance wouldn’t want a Ren finding Skywalker, and Han wanted to talk to Ben. That whole bit could have just been on Ren’s Star Destroyer and was superfluous. </p><p></p><p><strong>The new trilogy is suuuuuper feminist. </strong></p><p>But is it? Is it *really*?? Rey is the new hero, but are there significantly more female roles? Do the new movies even pass the Bechdel test? (They do, but only barely. Rey has one brief scene with Maz Kanata in TFA and Leia briefly talks about the Resistance to Holdo AFTER discussing Poe.)</p><p>Is flopping the gender of the primary protagonist *really* all it takes to be distractingly feminist?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 7532088, member: 37579"] I’m always surprised by how widespread some of [i]The Last Jedi[/i] talking points are despite most being silly. [B]How did Rey know how to fly the Falcon? [/B] Same correspondence course Luke took to learn how to fly an X-Wing I imagine. [B]How could she beat Ren without training? [/B] We saw her kick two guys’ asses on Jakku. Which was more training that farmboy Luke got, who spent an hour training with Ben and a long weekend with Yoda lifting rocks. Also, Ren took a boltcaster shot to the side, and we know those have enough force to knock a stormtrooper flying. [B]Why did it drop Rey’s parentage storyline? [/B] My response is “what storyline?” Her parents aren’t even mentioned in TFA. All we know is she was abandoned and the people who did were not coming back. The “Rey’s parents” question is pure fan speculation that exists solely because [i]The Empire Strikes Back[/i] had a parentage twist. Why does the new film have to mimic the surprising twist of a different trilogy? Isn’t that the laziest possible thing they could have done? [B]Why did they drop the Snoke storyline? [/B] Because he was a lame Emperor ripoff. We knew two things about Snoke: his title and proper name. Which was MORE details than the Emperor received in the original trilogy. The villain we care about is Ren. Snoke was redundant to the plot, and time spent fleshing him out would be better served with ANY of the other characters. [B]Canto Bight was a pointless. [/B] Hey, you know what else was pointless? The whole Kanjiklub bit, and the following Rathtar chase. And Starkiller base. Finn would have gone after Rey anyway, the Resistance wouldn’t want a Ren finding Skywalker, and Han wanted to talk to Ben. That whole bit could have just been on Ren’s Star Destroyer and was superfluous. [B]The new trilogy is suuuuuper feminist. [/B] But is it? Is it *really*?? Rey is the new hero, but are there significantly more female roles? Do the new movies even pass the Bechdel test? (They do, but only barely. Rey has one brief scene with Maz Kanata in TFA and Leia briefly talks about the Resistance to Holdo AFTER discussing Poe.) Is flopping the gender of the primary protagonist *really* all it takes to be distractingly feminist? [/QUOTE]
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