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<blockquote data-quote="The Serge" data-source="post: 2092226" data-attributes="member: 4049"><p>I suppose I'm to blame for not indicating in my original post that the purpose of this conversation was not necessarily to slam Star Wars as a whole, but to point out that most of the problems for the franchise can be laid at the feet of the man responsible for its success.</p><p></p><p>I will agree with Ankh-Morpork Guard on the part that fans are partially to blame for our reaction to Star Wars. There really isn't much of a difference in the nature of most of the movies beyond the newness of ANH and the fact that our expectations as movie goers before 1983 weren't as high. Furthermore, our society has turned SW into a cultural event. Over 20 years have passed, allowing us to build these films up to be monumental achievements. To be sure, they were monumental technical achievements and paved the way for successful sci-fi features. But, as stories and acting go, only TESB is truly successful. ANH has some lousy acting from everyone save Ford and... Well, that's it; Guiness wasn't bad, but certainly nothing to brag home about. RotJ is essentially a rehash of the first film. Aside from the stuff with Jabba the Hutt, there's very little that's really good about this film. We go back to a Death Star; we're introduced to ridiculous ewoks; we don't really see a fantastic final light sabre duel; the conflict Vader faces seems forced; we never learn how Luke became so powerful... and never see that power reflected (I'm sorry, but a side-kick doesn't speak power to me). I could go on. When one measures these films against TPM and AotC, the only thing they have over those films is tighter editing, freshness, and a heaping of steaming nostalgia dumped on them. And I'm just as bad. I love ANH. But, I'm willing to admit that, when it's all said and done, there's no real difference between these new features and the old ones.</p><p></p><p>Lucas doesn't know how to capture the human element and doesn't know how to capture drama. He does know how to create a strong story foundation, but that's the extent of it. He needs other people to get in there and work it out. That's why TESB was a success well beyond the other films to date.</p><p></p><p>Let's hope that Lucas has truly learned most of his lesson with Episode III. Clearly, he hasn't learned everything since he's still directing, but let's pray that he let someone come in and rewrite the script.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Serge, post: 2092226, member: 4049"] I suppose I'm to blame for not indicating in my original post that the purpose of this conversation was not necessarily to slam Star Wars as a whole, but to point out that most of the problems for the franchise can be laid at the feet of the man responsible for its success. I will agree with Ankh-Morpork Guard on the part that fans are partially to blame for our reaction to Star Wars. There really isn't much of a difference in the nature of most of the movies beyond the newness of ANH and the fact that our expectations as movie goers before 1983 weren't as high. Furthermore, our society has turned SW into a cultural event. Over 20 years have passed, allowing us to build these films up to be monumental achievements. To be sure, they were monumental technical achievements and paved the way for successful sci-fi features. But, as stories and acting go, only TESB is truly successful. ANH has some lousy acting from everyone save Ford and... Well, that's it; Guiness wasn't bad, but certainly nothing to brag home about. RotJ is essentially a rehash of the first film. Aside from the stuff with Jabba the Hutt, there's very little that's really good about this film. We go back to a Death Star; we're introduced to ridiculous ewoks; we don't really see a fantastic final light sabre duel; the conflict Vader faces seems forced; we never learn how Luke became so powerful... and never see that power reflected (I'm sorry, but a side-kick doesn't speak power to me). I could go on. When one measures these films against TPM and AotC, the only thing they have over those films is tighter editing, freshness, and a heaping of steaming nostalgia dumped on them. And I'm just as bad. I love ANH. But, I'm willing to admit that, when it's all said and done, there's no real difference between these new features and the old ones. Lucas doesn't know how to capture the human element and doesn't know how to capture drama. He does know how to create a strong story foundation, but that's the extent of it. He needs other people to get in there and work it out. That's why TESB was a success well beyond the other films to date. Let's hope that Lucas has truly learned most of his lesson with Episode III. Clearly, he hasn't learned everything since he's still directing, but let's pray that he let someone come in and rewrite the script. [/QUOTE]
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