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<blockquote data-quote="evileeyore" data-source="post: 6348054" data-attributes="member: 1768"><p>Arguably you would then be better at doing something than the person who can't do that thing. Those are called skills....</p><p></p><p></p><p>So your argument is that at some point you who can solder a pipe should somehow gain the ability to "know how best to lay pipe" over say the guy who has been plumbing all his life (and in game mechanics actually put the skill Crafting: Plumber on his sheet)?</p><p></p><p>That's what the Ranger is doing. He's becoming the "best at this" without even needing the Proficiency or Ability scores...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is again arguably that they are really skilled at that one thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Except he actually does these things better with no skill than the person whom has the skill... because why? He went to Ranger Academy? And flunked out of Stealth 101, Survival 101, and his mandatory Athletics courses?</p><p></p><p>And he gets these abilities later in life? Has he been fulfilling his mandatory continuing education credits or something? Ranger (K)Night School?</p><p></p><p>BARGLE!?!?!?!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And that's what I'm laughing at 5e over. The Ranger who can have an actual penalty to Stealth gets a handful of really neato Stealth (and other) based abilities because... eh... Master of Stealth?</p><p></p><p>Someday someone will come along and make a D&D game I really like. And most of you will hate it. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="evileeyore, post: 6348054, member: 1768"] Arguably you would then be better at doing something than the person who can't do that thing. Those are called skills.... So your argument is that at some point you who can solder a pipe should somehow gain the ability to "know how best to lay pipe" over say the guy who has been plumbing all his life (and in game mechanics actually put the skill Crafting: Plumber on his sheet)? That's what the Ranger is doing. He's becoming the "best at this" without even needing the Proficiency or Ability scores... Which is again arguably that they are really skilled at that one thing. Except he actually does these things better with no skill than the person whom has the skill... because why? He went to Ranger Academy? And flunked out of Stealth 101, Survival 101, and his mandatory Athletics courses? And he gets these abilities later in life? Has he been fulfilling his mandatory continuing education credits or something? Ranger (K)Night School? BARGLE!?!?!?! :p And that's what I'm laughing at 5e over. The Ranger who can have an actual penalty to Stealth gets a handful of really neato Stealth (and other) based abilities because... eh... Master of Stealth? Someday someone will come along and make a D&D game I really like. And most of you will hate it. ;) [/QUOTE]
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