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<blockquote data-quote="CanadienneBacon" data-source="post: 3728023" data-attributes="member: 11146"><p>I'm about to head over to the IC to do up the next iteration of combat. We can discuss the rules issue(s) even though I intend to forward combat. No sense stopping play for this issue. For the purpose of this round only, Chev can (from the prone position) crawl five feet away without incurring an AoO. For the purpose of this round only, if Voadam aids Chev in Chev's withdrawl, Voadam will incur an AoO if Voadam drags Chev more than 5 feet. </p><p></p><p>Now, with that settled for the round, here are my questions regarding this particular situation.</p><p></p><p>Ambrus, do you have a PHB page number reference or an SRD quote to support the idea that crawling 5 ft draws an AoO? I checked the PHB this morning (pp 137, 144) and confirmed my belief that taking a 5 ft step never incurs an AoO. The section as I read it didn't specifically mention crawling per se, though. I'm inclined to allow a 5 ft crawl without drawing an AoO, personally. As an interesting aside purely out of curiousity, I could benefit from seeing something concrete regarding crawling, if you know of such a tidbit.</p><p></p><p>Regarding withdrawing, "If, during the process of withdrawing, you move out of a threatened square (<strong>other than the one you started in</strong>), enemies get attacks of opportunity as normal." (PHB 143) Because of the croc's 10-foot reach, withdrawing through a second threatened square will incur an AoO.</p><p></p><p>Under Move Action (see table 8-2), Moving a heavy object incurs an AoO. Chev <em>could</em> be considered a heavy object. Voadam <em>might</em> incur an AoO but Chev would not (as Chev is the one being moved). This assumes that Chev continues to lie prone, makes relatively little effort to hinder Voadam's retrieval, and makes no aggressive effort against the crocodile.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CanadienneBacon, post: 3728023, member: 11146"] I'm about to head over to the IC to do up the next iteration of combat. We can discuss the rules issue(s) even though I intend to forward combat. No sense stopping play for this issue. For the purpose of this round only, Chev can (from the prone position) crawl five feet away without incurring an AoO. For the purpose of this round only, if Voadam aids Chev in Chev's withdrawl, Voadam will incur an AoO if Voadam drags Chev more than 5 feet. Now, with that settled for the round, here are my questions regarding this particular situation. Ambrus, do you have a PHB page number reference or an SRD quote to support the idea that crawling 5 ft draws an AoO? I checked the PHB this morning (pp 137, 144) and confirmed my belief that taking a 5 ft step never incurs an AoO. The section as I read it didn't specifically mention crawling per se, though. I'm inclined to allow a 5 ft crawl without drawing an AoO, personally. As an interesting aside purely out of curiousity, I could benefit from seeing something concrete regarding crawling, if you know of such a tidbit. Regarding withdrawing, "If, during the process of withdrawing, you move out of a threatened square ([B]other than the one you started in[/B]), enemies get attacks of opportunity as normal." (PHB 143) Because of the croc's 10-foot reach, withdrawing through a second threatened square will incur an AoO. Under Move Action (see table 8-2), Moving a heavy object incurs an AoO. Chev [I]could[/I] be considered a heavy object. Voadam [I]might[/I] incur an AoO but Chev would not (as Chev is the one being moved). This assumes that Chev continues to lie prone, makes relatively little effort to hinder Voadam's retrieval, and makes no aggressive effort against the crocodile. [/QUOTE]
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