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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6298562" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Anything done on a modern human industrial scale has environmental impact. That is unavoidable. It is merely a question of whether the impact can be managed to a level where the world around us can bear it. Any time they bring up how "New Technology X saves us Y!" we must ask what it costs us. Sometimes the cost is a good tradeoff, sometimes it isn't. You can't look at conservation just at the end and be successful at it. You have to look at the full life of the technology, start to finish, to identify all the costs before you can really assess it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Current solar panels are ultimately like any other electronics. We don't do a good job of recycling electronics in the US as it is.</p><p></p><p>Mind you, the issues aren't just in the panels themselves, but in production of the panels. Setting aside where we get all the rare earth elements to dope the semiconductors with, the processing makes heavy use of caustic substances, and there are wastes. We already produce a lot of such, of course, but add to that stream the results of paving all our roads with it, and it becomes a concern.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6298562, member: 177"] Anything done on a modern human industrial scale has environmental impact. That is unavoidable. It is merely a question of whether the impact can be managed to a level where the world around us can bear it. Any time they bring up how "New Technology X saves us Y!" we must ask what it costs us. Sometimes the cost is a good tradeoff, sometimes it isn't. You can't look at conservation just at the end and be successful at it. You have to look at the full life of the technology, start to finish, to identify all the costs before you can really assess it. Current solar panels are ultimately like any other electronics. We don't do a good job of recycling electronics in the US as it is. Mind you, the issues aren't just in the panels themselves, but in production of the panels. Setting aside where we get all the rare earth elements to dope the semiconductors with, the processing makes heavy use of caustic substances, and there are wastes. We already produce a lot of such, of course, but add to that stream the results of paving all our roads with it, and it becomes a concern. [/QUOTE]
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