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<blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 7728823" data-attributes="member: 5100"><p>Well, the "living errata" of <em>polymorph</em>* was one of the key reasons I started to get dissatisfied with 3.5E and didn't stick with 4E (the digital tools for which were, at least initially, supposed to incorporate errata and rules updates).</p><p></p><p>Something like improving the index doesn't bother me and seems completely innocuous in a 2nd (or beyond) printing. Typos fall into the same category, for me. Things happen.</p><p></p><p>There's a gray area with errata, though. Errata is an implicit (maybe even explicit) acknowledgement that something got missed during the editing process and the finished product wasn't as intended. That could be because everyone involved was part of the conversation and took assumptions for granted. It could be simple human error in getting text from a prior draft. It could be something else, too, but it isn't a rules change.</p><p></p><p>Despite my group having completely replaced the PHB Ranger with the latest UA Ranger, at our table, I would find it incredibly inappropriate for the next printing of the PHB to incorporate the UA Ranger (or something like it). That's not errata. That's a rules change. If they wanted to do a 5.5 or 5E Revised, so be it. Within an edition, though, I shouldn't have to even know that I may need to check print runs on my books.</p><p></p><p>Digital tools (DDB) are in the same boat, IMO. Fixing typos are fine, but I don't want an argument at my table because I'm running from DDB while a player is looking at the rules in their PHB. They can have a certain tolerance for typos, but they shouldn't be expected to invest time online to keep up with "official" changes.</p><p></p><p>* The fact that I disagreed with the changes didn't help. I saw that more as beating the creativity out of the game than fixing a loophole. Regardless, I refused to invalidate my players' books and we never adopted that particular set of errata.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercule, post: 7728823, member: 5100"] Well, the "living errata" of [I]polymorph[/I]* was one of the key reasons I started to get dissatisfied with 3.5E and didn't stick with 4E (the digital tools for which were, at least initially, supposed to incorporate errata and rules updates). Something like improving the index doesn't bother me and seems completely innocuous in a 2nd (or beyond) printing. Typos fall into the same category, for me. Things happen. There's a gray area with errata, though. Errata is an implicit (maybe even explicit) acknowledgement that something got missed during the editing process and the finished product wasn't as intended. That could be because everyone involved was part of the conversation and took assumptions for granted. It could be simple human error in getting text from a prior draft. It could be something else, too, but it isn't a rules change. Despite my group having completely replaced the PHB Ranger with the latest UA Ranger, at our table, I would find it incredibly inappropriate for the next printing of the PHB to incorporate the UA Ranger (or something like it). That's not errata. That's a rules change. If they wanted to do a 5.5 or 5E Revised, so be it. Within an edition, though, I shouldn't have to even know that I may need to check print runs on my books. Digital tools (DDB) are in the same boat, IMO. Fixing typos are fine, but I don't want an argument at my table because I'm running from DDB while a player is looking at the rules in their PHB. They can have a certain tolerance for typos, but they shouldn't be expected to invest time online to keep up with "official" changes. * The fact that I disagreed with the changes didn't help. I saw that more as beating the creativity out of the game than fixing a loophole. Regardless, I refused to invalidate my players' books and we never adopted that particular set of errata. [/QUOTE]
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