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<blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 7729062" data-attributes="member: 6677017"><p>In 2e the settings were all presented from their own perspective, and then Spelljammer and Planescape combined them together and presented them from that perspective. That's already the precedent.</p><p></p><p>What I think some people might be objecting to is that TSR decided that there really <em>is</em> a true version of the multiverse, and other perspectives are basically wrong. Although <em>even then</em>, Planescape, which is the one with the clearest picture of that version, has a built-in "but who really knows who's right?" philosophical point.</p><p></p><p>In reality, I think the problem is that people aren't looking at what was actually done in 2e (and the current design seems to be an enhanced version of that), and are creating a mental image taking 3e's "every setting in it's own unique universe!" and then being concerned with how preserve the flavor of those worlds while still putting them all together in a unified multiverse.</p><p></p><p>It's already been proven doable. And 5e is even more sensitive to these concerns, because the DMG specifically highlights that there is no way to tell which version is actually true. So people on Eberron only know about certain planes, so they only ever interact with them. From the the perspective of the average guy from Sigil, that Eberron-specific plane is just a domain out in the Hinterlands of the Outlands, or in the Gray Waste or something. But from the meta-perspective, if the only way in or out of it is from the Eberron methods (and maybe portals to it on the Gray Waste if you're already there), you really can't say whether or not it is true.</p><p></p><p>The only thing that this current method (or at least, the method as I'm interpreting it) requires that imposes on anyone's game even theoretically is that it is officially true that all of those other places actually exist. The fact is, they either have to say they do or they don't. 2e said they do. 3e said they don't. 5e is going with 2e, but emphasizing the subjectivity of the details.</p><p></p><p>If that isn't good enough for everyone...well that's just silly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sword of Spirit, post: 7729062, member: 6677017"] In 2e the settings were all presented from their own perspective, and then Spelljammer and Planescape combined them together and presented them from that perspective. That's already the precedent. What I think some people might be objecting to is that TSR decided that there really [I]is[/I] a true version of the multiverse, and other perspectives are basically wrong. Although [I]even then[/I], Planescape, which is the one with the clearest picture of that version, has a built-in "but who really knows who's right?" philosophical point. In reality, I think the problem is that people aren't looking at what was actually done in 2e (and the current design seems to be an enhanced version of that), and are creating a mental image taking 3e's "every setting in it's own unique universe!" and then being concerned with how preserve the flavor of those worlds while still putting them all together in a unified multiverse. It's already been proven doable. And 5e is even more sensitive to these concerns, because the DMG specifically highlights that there is no way to tell which version is actually true. So people on Eberron only know about certain planes, so they only ever interact with them. From the the perspective of the average guy from Sigil, that Eberron-specific plane is just a domain out in the Hinterlands of the Outlands, or in the Gray Waste or something. But from the meta-perspective, if the only way in or out of it is from the Eberron methods (and maybe portals to it on the Gray Waste if you're already there), you really can't say whether or not it is true. The only thing that this current method (or at least, the method as I'm interpreting it) requires that imposes on anyone's game even theoretically is that it is officially true that all of those other places actually exist. The fact is, they either have to say they do or they don't. 2e said they do. 3e said they don't. 5e is going with 2e, but emphasizing the subjectivity of the details. If that isn't good enough for everyone...well that's just silly. [/QUOTE]
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