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<blockquote data-quote="EarthSeraphEdna" data-source="post: 7905505" data-attributes="member: 49309"><p>Between a wizard, a Star Pact warlock, a Wandering Swordmage, a ranger (hunter), and a Virtue of Cunning bard, none of which are hybrids, the party sounds to be in the lower side of the mechanical optimization spectrum. It sounds to me like the issue is that your original DM was <strong>exceedingly</strong> generous in allowing things to happen.</p><p></p><p>In contrast, when I was playing through this adventure path, the DM was (perfectly understandably) quite adamant about keeping to the rails. Ashima-Shimtu used her book #13 statistics, so killing her was off the table. While we fought Leone Quital's full level 17 elite artillery self (along with exceedingly heavy backup), the DM made it crystal-clear that he would always escape, and that destroying or even damaging the colossus was completely off-the-table no matter what.</p><p></p><p>In contrast, your DM appears to have taken the exact opposite route: letting wild and wacky things happen to derail the storyline. Despite my wording, I do not take any issue with this, because I have done similar things, but it <strong>does</strong> demand extensive revisions to the adventure path. It is a little unfair for this DM to foist off DMing duties for you, since you are now the one who has to clean up the mess.</p><p></p><p>I genuinely could not say how to fix up your campaign. All I can refer you to is the fact that a second colossus is mentioned (but never followed up on) in book #10, and that at least one other DM has run a campaign wherein Kasvarina was a party member. I personally think that "Kasvarina is a party member" works much better if implemented much, much earlier into the game; the later the idea goes onto the table, the more hamfisted and artificial it feels. Also, other players might feel sidelined if one other party member receives such a major role.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EarthSeraphEdna, post: 7905505, member: 49309"] Between a wizard, a Star Pact warlock, a Wandering Swordmage, a ranger (hunter), and a Virtue of Cunning bard, none of which are hybrids, the party sounds to be in the lower side of the mechanical optimization spectrum. It sounds to me like the issue is that your original DM was [B]exceedingly[/B] generous in allowing things to happen. In contrast, when I was playing through this adventure path, the DM was (perfectly understandably) quite adamant about keeping to the rails. Ashima-Shimtu used her book #13 statistics, so killing her was off the table. While we fought Leone Quital's full level 17 elite artillery self (along with exceedingly heavy backup), the DM made it crystal-clear that he would always escape, and that destroying or even damaging the colossus was completely off-the-table no matter what. In contrast, your DM appears to have taken the exact opposite route: letting wild and wacky things happen to derail the storyline. Despite my wording, I do not take any issue with this, because I have done similar things, but it [B]does[/B] demand extensive revisions to the adventure path. It is a little unfair for this DM to foist off DMing duties for you, since you are now the one who has to clean up the mess. I genuinely could not say how to fix up your campaign. All I can refer you to is the fact that a second colossus is mentioned (but never followed up on) in book #10, and that at least one other DM has run a campaign wherein Kasvarina was a party member. I personally think that "Kasvarina is a party member" works much better if implemented much, much earlier into the game; the later the idea goes onto the table, the more hamfisted and artificial it feels. Also, other players might feel sidelined if one other party member receives such a major role. [/QUOTE]
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